out rubbin' on the truck this morning...headliner options...

as usual...really good commentary here. Thank you all. I believe
I will leave the headliner to the pros...great rec. on the auto stereo shops,
I had not considered that as a reference point. Last time I tried a headliner re-glue...
you could see lumps in the finished project. My take home lesson, expertise takes many hours. :C

...as to the windshield... major road work on my frequent commute (101 to Scottsdale and back to Chandler)
I need to wait until they finish before I put new glass in...or else it is just a waste of money. :M
They said it was a 2 year project over 2 years ago... end nowhere in sight.

Charles

jmckelvy wrote:
In my experience once it starts adding glue on those areas does not really help. Eventually it will sag elsewhere. I have done several vehicles the last being my 2000 Jeep Cherokee. It is not difficult but you do need to remove all traces of the old liner and adhesive.

You can get headliner material at most fabric stores. IIRC I paid about $25 for the fabric for my Jeep. Use a real good headliner adhesive and take your time putting the liner on the backer or you will get wrinkles which are real difficult to remove as the adhesive is typically a contact cement.

X2!

Reglueing the existing material would be nothing more than a short term temporary at best fix.

Headliner is a foam backed material which glued to a headliner board.

Over time with heat and cooling cycles the foam deteriorates, gets crumbly and the cloth starts separating.

Nothing can be done to make it stop once the foam starts going bad.

Car stereo shops, custom speed shops or a auto upholsterer shop should be able to remove the headliner board from the vehicle, remove and replace the old material then reinstall the panel for you without removing the windshield.

As far as the windshield faults, well not a lot can be done which will result in a permanent fix other than replacing. I have seen mentions about polishing but often that will be very labor intensive AND it may leave annoying distortions permanently in the glass.

For polishing info you can do some internet searches for polishing telescope mirrors..

Personally, I am not into that kind of abuse on my body, I would opt for a new windshield.. Check with Safelite, most windshields are around $250-$350 and THEY do all the work.

I did custom car audio in another lifetime. Taking an entire headliner out is very labor intensive. Most B-pillar removal starts all the way down at the kick panels.
Most (good) stereo shops will know a good place to recommend, or might do it themselves. There's not many people better suited to remove then interior of car than those guys.
This, assuming you're talking about a replacement not a glue repair.
And yes it can be a difficult job. The new one will crease VERY easy if bent too much and be ruined.

In my experience once it starts adding glue on those areas does not really help. Eventually it will sag elsewhere. I have done several vehicles the last being my 2000 Jeep Cherokee. It is not difficult but you do need to remove all traces of the old liner and adhesive.

You can get headliner material at most fabric stores. IIRC I paid about $25 for the fabric for my Jeep. Use a real good headliner adhesive and take your time putting the liner on the backer or you will get wrinkles which are real difficult to remove as the adhesive is typically a contact cement.

Don...

Just a quick call around... looks to be in the $275 - 300 ballpark with additional charge if front/rear windshield needs to be removed to accomplish repair. Ouch !

Charles

Find an upholstery shop and ask them if they can replace it. Not real difficult, just takes patience, the right tools and some money.

Thanks James....but, I've tried gluing before on the A post/pillar, always comes out looking amateurish. I lack the skills appropriate.

I'm pretty sure the windshield is dump ready.

Charles

There is headliner adhesive:

Amazon


The 3M material has a lot of positive ratings from users.

As for the glass, can you get it polished?