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jefe_4x4
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Apr 15, 2015

Overnighting-while-Urban, or OU

BKA has raised some salient points about 'stealth camping' (or overnighting, or camo camping, or overnighting under the radar..). In thinking about this, I want to ask the question of you seasoned (or unseasoned) TC travelers that delve into any form of the stealth endeavor.
We are all products of our environment and have gotten used to traveling with the 'big white box' on the back of our trucks. Stealth is close to nonexistent with a 20 foot, low profile WHITE truck and WHITE camper. (Raise hand here) Nothing screams unstealthiness like a 40 foot long 12' tall train of white boxes. Some on here ( you know who you are) have a rather stealthy paint job for the whole rig, namely ones that are painted a tope color. Tope is kind of a murky medium grey/brown with a slight green tint that tends to make the surface disappear after dark, especially if it is in less that gloss. It looks good in the daylight and after dark, dimly. A lot of the euro, big bucks campmobiles are painted this color. I'm not talking about Olive Drab, but something a bit less G.I. looking.

To the Question: Do you think a flat or less glossy tope painting of the entire rig would make any difference at night when you are overnighting? Or would it increase the interest in passersby as to your intentions? Would it look too sinister? Really, I need your input here.
I would drop the hammer on both the truck and the camper (as a camo ensemble) if it would add to steathiness. There some new thin plastic over lays that look interesting. They go on like sheets of tape.

This all came about when I bought a book on camouflage in warfare, specifically as applied to milspec vehicles in different theaters of operation.
The fun was to see the Urban camo, which was a blotchy, broken black and white, all in a flat surface. Of course in the desert you get desert sand, the color of my CJ-8. Since one does not need camo in the desert, that color is out.

Only stealthy in the snow:

Olive drab is too military looking, not the image I want to display.
What say you? Even if you know nothing about it, you still have as good an opinion as anyone.
regards, as always, jefe

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  • My trailer out in the remote western high desert stands out like light bulb because it's white. You can see it from 20 miles and I don't like that, since it's unoccupied a lot. Nothing too valuable, but don't want to attract attention, like you. Definitely feathered, non glossy colors, in a somewhat random placement would make mine disappear. I have so many chores when I go there, that I haven't done it yet. Netting could be a mess, if you've ever tried putting a cover on an rv, it takes me 10 minutes......one more chore coming and going.

    I figure you're not talking about urban parking, since cops that would care about that would go by the size and shape more than the finish anyway. I like your idea of leaving nothing but footprints and tire tracks in the wilds, and not being a beacon for opportunistic wanderers. BTW, if you wanted to get more stealth in a remote area, dragging couple of pine branches behind tied to the rear would take away the fresh tire track signpost. Don't know if you're talking desert, though.

    I used to live briefly in a large People's Republik state where the public lands were crawling with rangers whose main purpose seemed to be to find some minor registration/fee/fine/license infraction for somebody just peacefully trying to enjoy the views. I believe in the rule of law, but wouldn't mind being more invisible, myself, which is why I went to a quiet 4 stroke dirt bike in that state.

    The novel assortment of humanity that I have seen in my local national forest would make me want to be somewhat stealthy, too, if overnighting.
  • If it were me, I'd go to an Army/Navy surplus store and get a camo net. The type that is 3D netting.

    Painting is so 'permanent'. A throw net is not.





  • Naio's avatar
    Naio
    Explorer II
    The color name you are looking for is 'taupe'.

    I don't think color matters, for urban overnighting. Sure, white catches the eye at night. But it's not like people are going to NOT SEE a giant TC, no matter what color it is.

    More practical might be to think about what, if anything, might make it look like something other than a camping rig. Some sort of signage, perhaps.
  • jefe, you bring up a subject I have never considered in a straigh out thought process. But subliminally, it has lingered in the back of my mind. With the rebuild under way the Lance will have no decals replaced and it will be white on white and white trim. The truck is silver and the boat is aluminum with dark Yamaha grey motors (small decals) and grey towing cover. So I am pretty bland, don't draw attention. I think that for what we do this will be suitable. I may put a ghost US waving flag on the cabover sides in silver tones, very little contrast...but that is a fleeting thought!

    So using the ideas in the informative article, my experinces and a clean rig, parking should not be an issue using those rules from BKA...good article!

    The sig pic is old before I removed the maroon stuff...When rig is all done a new pic will go up. I do not travel with the top up on boat.
  • My previous camping setup was pretty bright with no stealth possible:



    As Bryan wrote, I kept my roofs white to reflect heat instead of cooking the contents.

    It got a little better with the TC and enclosed trailer in tow, but I still had a bright red truck:



    It blends a little more now with a brown truck:



    Which takes me back to my 80's:

  • You bring up a topic I actually have been looking into, myself. Even though I have written recently on a different tangent for a process that I have spent less than 5% of my camping time. My interest of for the 85% of the camping I do, remote/boondocking. I have been looking into screens like the military have used for masking their mobile equipment. Or even sun shades. The big issues I have with this direction of thought, cost, where to store it, wind load and securing the material. The big advantages is to mask my appearance at distances. The reason I don't wish to color the camper, is the ultimate Heat Sink impact it has.

    Looking forward to this discussion. Getting the popcorn out now. Some of my iron soldier friends would be good to chime in on this too.

    b