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fickman
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May 20, 2014

Payload / Can they tow it question - 2009 F150

I'm trying to help a family member in their TT selection.

Truck for discussion:
2009 F150 XLT CrewCab 6.5' bed 2WD 5.4L V8 3.55 rear w/ 6-speed transmission
GVWR: 7,100 lbs.
Tow rating: ~9,500 lbs.
GCWR: 13,000 lbs.

A family member has the above truck. It has an ARE camper shell, spray-in bed liner, scooter lift, and scooter. All told, with his wife, him, and the scooter, the truck weighted 6,650 lbs. That leaves just under 500 lbs. available payload for tongue weight and anything else they pack in the truck.

The thing is, he's got plenty of more room on his axle ratings (maybe 500 lbs. per). I haven't checked tire ratings yet, they're the same p-rated Michelin tires that came on it.

Most towing would be in Texas, Oklahoma, and maybe Arkansas. . . generally short trips. They're looking at campers with dry weights from 4,100 lbs. to 5,300 lbs. I've advised to estimate +1,200 above that as a camping weight and 12% for tongue weight.

I'm a stickler for ratings, but it does seem that payload is the one number even the "weight police" don't mind pushing a little.

Questions:
1. Would you feel safe getting right up to or a little over this payload as long as you're well under axle and tire ratings?

2. Is this a candidate for air bags?

3. How would adding a leaf spring in the rear effect it? Would you still use the axles as the main restriction?

4. Any other ideas? This is a classic case of having the TV before the TT, but a new TV isn't an option right now.

Thanks for your help!

*Edited to add engine size
  • jus2shy wrote:
    The dead giveaways for Max-Tow packages are the dumbo mirrors (which I actually really miss when compared to RAM's tow mirrors) and the 3.73 rear axle (at least these were part of the package in 2010). Only reason why I no longer own my Ford is because I was overloading it a bit with my weekend projects and the RV's we liked tended to have tongue weights right at 1,000 lbs or we were looking into 5th wheels.

    Also, another member noted 3850 and 4050 axles. They're right, 4050 was the rear axle weight rating of my F-150. I no longer can walk outside and view the sticker so I was trying to work as best as I could from memory.

    I updated the OP.

    They have the 5.4L V8 and the manually-extending vertical tow mirrors.
  • If it was max tow, it would have 3.73 rear axle and a 5.4 engine
  • Regardless of package, the door sticker should still be specific to the truck and reliable for the ratings printed on it, right?
  • Yep, your VIN sticker on the door should have all the numbers for the axles and such. It should also have the rear axle code. You should also have a tire inflation sticker in the door jam that should note the allowed payload for that vehicle as it was fitted from the factory. Then you have to subtract whatever accessories have been installed since. With the 3.55 gears, I'd assume standard tow package vs. Max Tow. Good thing they have the 5.4 though, makes a good bit more power and torque over the 4.6.