Payload discrepancies

Find something else to lay awake thinking about, that's how I handle payload discrepancies......

The tire and loading sticker "payload" includes the vehicle as equipped from the factory full of all fluids, i.e. fuel. No driver or occupants are included.

The source of the stickers which were required for North American sold vehicles in 2006 model year was the Ford/Firestone under inflation/overloaded rollover issues.

tatest wrote:


Driver is not considered part of the payload, but there is a weight associated with that, probably something like 158 pounds (it makes more sense in metric, and comes from the airline industry). Any excess driver weight is payload.

I doubt it comes from the airline industry. 158 is not even close to what is used in standard average passenger weights in the airline world. The weights also change from winter to summer weights.

Old-Biscuit wrote:

Lantley wrote:
The 2824 is specific to that exact vin # and is the most accurate. It includes options and features that reduce the payload. The other numbers are model specific and apply to all generic builds of that truck

This is the correct answer.

Truck tire data sticker gives info pertaining to THAT Specific vehicle

The combined weight of occupants and cargo should not exceed XXXX kg or XXXX lbs

Example:


Actual weigh ticket of truck loaded up subtracted from GVWR will give you AVAILABLE payload

Yep, Old-Biscuit nailed it. In my opinion the only real use for the yellow sticker is comparing rated payloads on the dealers lot.
Once that vehicle leaves the lot that number goes down with every item you add to the vehicle. The other tag that has been around for a very long time "the VIN" has very important information that many fail to understand. It has GVWR and individual Axle weight ratings. Both the Yellow and VIN have the minimum tire size to maintain the GVWR/Payload depending which sticker you are looking at.

The yellow does have the additional information of the Size and PRESSURE to carry the MAX payload.
I am assuming this is the one from Old-Biscuits Ram, you will notice the pressure stated is 65 psi on a LT 275/70-18E tire with a MAX sidewall pressure of 80 psi. The 65 psi will safely carry the load, and provide the best TRACTION and ride at max payload. If empty the rear pressures can be reduced.

4x4ord wrote:
Is my fuel considered payload? How about me if I'm the driver? And what about the thanks giving dinner that I'm going to eat? If I'm not considered part of the payload then I have to wonder how the manufacturer knows how fat I am? I'm going to guess that the manufacturer is including a full tank of fuel and a small, maybe 150 lb driver as part of the kerb weight when they calculate the rated payload.

A fuel tank of fuel is not considered part of the payload, that is part of the vehicle weight.

Driver is not considered part of the payload, but there is a weight associated with that, probably something like 158 pounds (it makes more sense in metric, and comes from the airline industry). Any excess driver weight is payload.

Is my fuel considered payload? How about me if I'm the driver? And what about the thanks giving dinner that I'm going to eat? If I'm not considered part of the payload then I have to wonder how the manufacturer knows how fat I am? I'm going to guess that the manufacturer is including a full tank of fuel and a small, maybe 150 lb driver as part of the kerb weight when they calculate the rated payload.

Stated payloads for a given model does not include any options. Even many expected features these days are technically options, even though you may not be able to delete a feature without doing a fleet order.

Lantley wrote:
The 2824 is specific to that exact vin # and is the most accurate. It includes options and features that reduce the payload. The other numbers are model specific and apply to all generic builds of that truck

This is the correct answer.

Truck tire data sticker gives info pertaining to THAT Specific vehicle

The combined weight of occupants and cargo should not exceed XXXX kg or XXXX lbs

Example:



Actual weigh ticket of truck loaded up subtracted from GVWR will give you AVAILABLE payload

GVWR - curb weight = payload for your truck as loaded.

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