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wsalopek
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Aug 13, 2016

Please help choosing used tow vehicle, about 14,000 UVW.

Hi folks...

Our needs are to tow a 5th wheel or travel trailer toy-hauler, a couple times per year. 14,000 - 15,000 pounds UVW.

(One option is to hire someone a couple times per year...anyone know about what it costs to move, say, 1000 miles?)

1) It doesn't matter how old the truck is, as long as it's reliable.

2) Like to spend $15,000 or less, the less the better.

3) 4WD is desired, so I can use the truck for 4WD purposes as well.

4) MPG's aren't important.

5) Brand name not important.

6) Realizing that the tow ratings are of course paramount, and not that I would ever want to exceed them...but...just how much fudge factor are in these ratings? Again, I'll tow maybe twice per year, so absolute longevity is really not that important.

If the truck was rated to pull, say, 13,500 pounds, would pulling say, a 14k pound or 15k pound trailer, practically speaking, be all that inadvisable?

If you guys can point me at a couple different model years from 1 or more manufacturers, that'd be much appreciated.

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Bill
  • SoCalDesertRider wrote:
    A 15,000 lb unloaded weight toy hauler could end up weighing 20,000 lbs loaded...Giving us the unloaded weight of the trailer really doesn't help at all. Nobody goes camping with an empty trailer, especially a toy hauler. What are you intending to haul in the trailer and how much does that weigh?


    SoCal,

    You make a good point...I was figuring "average" load. But yes I know...not very precise.

    Again I am looking for general recommendations, not necc trying to figure it to within a couple hundred or even 500 pounds.

    But to answer your question...no, I think no (heavy) toys inside (we just like the flexibility of the "garage")...though we've been renting ATV's lately, so who knows... :)

    I don't know what an average load is...clothes, food, water, kitchen stuff, etc etc. Nothing out of the ordinary.

    Figure 16,500 to 17,000 pounds? I'd think thats a bit on the heavy side, but a good figure to use.

    Thanks...

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    Bill
  • A 15,000 lb unloaded weight toy hauler could end up weighing 20,000 lbs loaded...

    Giving us the unloaded weight of the trailer really doesn't help at all. Nobody goes camping with an empty trailer, especially a toy hauler.

    What are you intending to haul in the trailer and how much does that weigh?

    You need a dually, preferably with a diesel. Anything beyond that, depends on just how much the loaded weight of the trailer will be.

    Avoid the 2003-2010 Ford 6.0 and 6.4 diesels.
  • agesilaus wrote:
    Dually's I've heard don't work well off road as a 4WD.


    Thanks for that...I guess that's a trade-off I'll live with. Max 4WD capability is not paramount.

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    Bill
  • nofoolin wrote:
    Just clarifying, 14 -15,000 lbs unloaded, then what is the weight going down the road? The answer may influence the quality of answers you get. Good luck with your research and realize there are many highly qualified people on the forum that will be glad to help.


    Nofoolin,

    Right...good point...we're probably looking at a minimum of 14k pounds UVW...then 16k to 17k loaded?

    The 5th wheel we have been salivating over is something like a Momentum, 38-ish feet long (looking for a nice used one). The specs on that are about 14,300 UVW, then of course adding the normal stuff...2,000 pounds worth?

    Anyway, at the moment I'm looking to get advice as to generally which trucks to look at. 1 ton, 2 ton, single axle, dually, gas, diesel, a certain range of years, like, say, the 20XX to 20XX Ford such and such, or Chevy such and such.

    Of course more specific recommendations would be terrific.

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    Bill
  • You will be loaded at around 18K. Pin can easily be 4-4,500#. One tow, 100 tows still too much for any SRW. Sure a SRW will "TOW JUST FINE" but will it "HANDLE" the load???
  • Just clarifying, 14 -15,000 lbs unloaded, then what is the weight going down the road? The answer may influence the quality of answers you get. Good luck with your research and realize there are many highly qualified people on the forum that will be glad to help.
  • Any one ton p/u from the 3 major manufacturers will work. At 15K unloaded weight tho I'd be looking at a dual rear wheel truck. At 15K the pin weight could possibly be over 3500# and some older trucks may not support that. Dually's I've heard don't work well off road as a 4WD.

    As for paying someone, I've heard you should expect the per mile costs to be over $1/mile. On the Ford used p/u front avoid the 6.0 L engine tho some people have no problems there are many others who have had problems.