Pros/Cons Chevy vs. Ford 1 Ton Diesel 4x4
I am not intending to start a flame war, but just curious on the pros and cons of the two brands. I am likely going to buy a 2016. I know each must have its "issues" and strengths and each will have ...
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mich800,
Quote from your post, Bryan:
"With that said I highly doubt changes like that even if there was a merger."
China wants to enter the pickup truck market on the world scene and there's no easier way than to buy an existing manufacturer wanting to sell cheap! Cheap because there's actually so little to sell in the present vehicle lineup for the world market and old decaying facilities with lots of long term debt! The definition of impending demise! NOT a merger but a sale of FCA however may be disguised as a merger for consumer wool pulling. Sergio has begged other manufactures to absorb FCA guised as a merger and you see how many takers or interest they have gotten!
Without Ram Trucks, especially the 2500 and 3500's with the diesel, FCA would have folded before the ink was dry on the Chrysler Corp takeover. It's FCA's major source of sales revenue by far!
Remember that ALL 2500 and 3500 Ram trucks (gas or diesel) are made in Mexico including the 6.4 Hemi or with a very expensive imported engine from Indiana. Mexico is not the USA or Canada where most Ram 2500 and 3500 trucks are sold so there's no financial connection at all. Besides, a 6.7 liter diesel and 6.4 liter gas engine wouldn't sell on the world market outside of North America and Cummins only sells their diesel to FCA and is not owned at all by FCA. Far too large an engine and burns far too much fuel outside North America as there's high taxes and heavy regulations on large displacement engines and the cost of fuel outside of North America is ultra expensive at the pump! Use your noggin, why would China want to keep buying a very expensive engine from Cummins when China can produce for a fraction of the cost and control completely right in their own country? Perhaps you notice that Ram uses the VMI Motori little diesel in the 1500's and NOT a Cummins? Just one of the many things China will mandate changing or no sale and it's not rocket science!
The height of stupidity is doing the same failed thing over and over and expecting different results! You must change the factors of what caused the failure to achieve different results and China isn't stupid!
China has gobs of ultra cheap labor and "several" billion population of potential customers right on their land mass they share with Europe, Asia, and Africa but only less that half of one billion in North America. Wait until you have to wait to get parts for a Chinese company major product like most of us already have experienced! A vehicle manufacturer is only required by U.S. to have OEM parts available for 10 years from model year date. What's the law in China who will then own what is now FCA? Think about it!
Nuff said!
Quote from your post, Bryan:
"With that said I highly doubt changes like that even if there was a merger."
China wants to enter the pickup truck market on the world scene and there's no easier way than to buy an existing manufacturer wanting to sell cheap! Cheap because there's actually so little to sell in the present vehicle lineup for the world market and old decaying facilities with lots of long term debt! The definition of impending demise! NOT a merger but a sale of FCA however may be disguised as a merger for consumer wool pulling. Sergio has begged other manufactures to absorb FCA guised as a merger and you see how many takers or interest they have gotten!
Without Ram Trucks, especially the 2500 and 3500's with the diesel, FCA would have folded before the ink was dry on the Chrysler Corp takeover. It's FCA's major source of sales revenue by far!
Remember that ALL 2500 and 3500 Ram trucks (gas or diesel) are made in Mexico including the 6.4 Hemi or with a very expensive imported engine from Indiana. Mexico is not the USA or Canada where most Ram 2500 and 3500 trucks are sold so there's no financial connection at all. Besides, a 6.7 liter diesel and 6.4 liter gas engine wouldn't sell on the world market outside of North America and Cummins only sells their diesel to FCA and is not owned at all by FCA. Far too large an engine and burns far too much fuel outside North America as there's high taxes and heavy regulations on large displacement engines and the cost of fuel outside of North America is ultra expensive at the pump! Use your noggin, why would China want to keep buying a very expensive engine from Cummins when China can produce for a fraction of the cost and control completely right in their own country? Perhaps you notice that Ram uses the VMI Motori little diesel in the 1500's and NOT a Cummins? Just one of the many things China will mandate changing or no sale and it's not rocket science!
The height of stupidity is doing the same failed thing over and over and expecting different results! You must change the factors of what caused the failure to achieve different results and China isn't stupid!
China has gobs of ultra cheap labor and "several" billion population of potential customers right on their land mass they share with Europe, Asia, and Africa but only less that half of one billion in North America. Wait until you have to wait to get parts for a Chinese company major product like most of us already have experienced! A vehicle manufacturer is only required by U.S. to have OEM parts available for 10 years from model year date. What's the law in China who will then own what is now FCA? Think about it!
Nuff said!
