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gmcsmoke wrote:
Actually in some states you need a NCDL for GCWR over 26k.
NCDL = North Carolina Driver's License
NCDL = None Commercial Driver's License or standard Driver's License
You may have to get standard license endorsements but that would only apply if you reside in the state that requires it, as other states would not offer such an endorsement.- Not worth the time
- The Ram is so much better looking and can cook :S
- The RAM diesel will be $2,850.00 more than a similarly equipped Hemi. How does this compare to the Ford EcoBoost?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/06/28/chrysler-ram-diesel-price-power/2471869/ Mike Up wrote:
this thread is about 1/2 ton trucks.
You don't need a CDL (although I have a Class A) to drive none commercial trucks.
Actually in some states you need a NCDL for GCWR over 26k. And thanks for taking this 1/2 truck thread even farther off course.- Wow, this has turned into a b*tch fest. Who cares about 2500/3500/250/350 trucks as this thread is about 1/2 ton trucks.
You don't need a CDL (although I have a Class A) to drive none commercial trucks. My family drives Recreational Class 8 Semis to pull horses across the country and doesn't need a CDL. CDL = "COMMERCIAL DRIVERS LICENCE".
IMO, a trucks drivetrain only needs to have enough power to do it's job without struggling. It's drivetrain must also do so being reliable. I don't care if it has the most power as long as it doesn't struggle.
When I drove class 7 Rigs, they had undersized diesel engines and they struggled to go up a hill and maintain speed. They had over 1000 lbs of torque but had lower 300 horsepower. Many times I couldn't get over 35 miles per hour going up a hill pulling a backhoe, when class 8 semis were passing me doing 65 mph. It sucks to have to put the flashers on because your truck is to weak to do it's job. CKNSLS wrote:
OK- What do you think of the new 1/2 ton RAM diesel coming out? Do you think it will sell? Do you think it will cannibalize sells of comparable half ton gas models since there is really no competition right now for this truck.
Please share your thoughts.
Sure - I think they got buried in the beginning...
Compared to, say an Ecoboost:
The Ecoboost, while probably getting worse fuel economy will:
Tow more
Have the same or better power characteristics.
Have less expensive maintenance
Have less expensive repairs
Have less expensive fuel (here Diesel is the same as or more expensive than premium)
Is proven now (that they have the intercoolers fixed)
Have larger payload
Compared to the GM twins, most of the same applies but they get better fuel economy than the Ecoboost so they have that going for them.
IMHO it's a swing and a miss. People want the power characteristics of Diesel (flat torque) and that's what Ecoboost gives them and to a similar extent the new GM trucks as they said they tuned them for flat torque curves.itguy08 wrote:
CKNSLS wrote:
HUH? A company goes through three owners in almost as many years...customers (normal folks or fleet buyers) don't know if they will be in business tomorrow-have nothing to do with their market position?
Gee.take a business class!
Thanks but I've actually got a business degree (IT related but it was more business than IT). It has nothing to do with Chrysler's owners. Especially when you can trace their lack of sales back to the 60/70/80's, well before the drama with their owners. You can even compare them to GM and GMs sales didn't suffer much when they went through their bankruptcy at the same time.
Chrysler's products have historically not been that good and definitely not as good as their competition. Which is why they almost went under not once but twice. If you make good things you never have to worry about sales and going bankrupt.
OK- What do you think of the new 1/2 ton RAM diesel coming out? Do you think it will sell? Do you think it will cannibalize sells of comparable half ton gas models since there is really no competition right now for this truck.
Please share your thoughts.CKNSLS wrote:
HUH? A company goes through three owners in almost as many years...customers (normal folks or fleet buyers) don't know if they will be in business tomorrow-have nothing to do with their market position?
Gee.take a business class!
Thanks but I've actually got a business degree (IT related but it was more business than IT). It has nothing to do with Chrysler's owners. Especially when you can trace their lack of sales back to the 60/70/80's, well before the drama with their owners. You can even compare them to GM and GMs sales didn't suffer much when they went through their bankruptcy at the same time.
Chrysler's products have historically not been that good and definitely not as good as their competition. Which is why they almost went under not once but twice. If you make good things you never have to worry about sales and going bankrupt.itguy08 wrote:
CKNSLS wrote:
nevadanick wrote:
Sales stats prove that Ram is not class leading.
Your right. That's because of the trials and tribulations that the whole corporation has gone through. You know, Fist Cerberus buying Chrysler and then running it in to the ground, and now Fiat is involved.
It has nothing to do with it. Ram/Dodge has been in last place for so long it's because of poor product and dubious quality.
Ask yourself 2 questions:
1. If Ram were so great why have fleets not warmed up to them? In fleets, low TCO and low breakdowns are the name of the game as when that truck is down no $$ is coming in. Uhaul, Budget, etc all rent GM and Ford box trucks. Not a Ram to be found.
2. If Ram were so great why are so many on the used market? For the most part, people get rid of a car/truck when either: 1) costs too much in repairs, 2) can't afford it, and 3) lifestyle changes. You see tons of Rams on used car lots yet fewer Fords and Chevys, and Rams are always cheaper. I wonder why that is?
HUH? A company goes through three owners in almost as many years...customers (normal folks or fleet buyers) don't know if they will be in business tomorrow-have nothing to do with their market position?
Gee.take a business class!
