Ram 2500 Diesel

wanderingaimlessly wrote:

ib516 wrote:

wanderingaimlessly wrote:
Yeah , it's sad, but the coil suspension makes that light riding truck, have very little payload after you allow for the diesels weight.

Sorry my friend, but that is 100% BS.

The 2380# payload is typical for the 2500 crew cab diesel class and has zero to do with the rear springs, and everything to do with the 10k weight limit for class 2 trucks (that is until GM changed the rules sort of, but that's another topic).

All that means is your truck weighs 10,000 - 2380 = 7620# empty as it sits.

The coil spring rear suspension gives a better ride, empty or loaded, but does not reduce the available payload. Trains engines ride on coil springs, and I think they're pretty heavy.

And I simply said it was a light payload cap. And advised how to check it.
The Manufacturers guidelines show the light payload. I did point out that tow capacity was more than sufficient especially since it is the same engine as the 3500 series.
If you want to overload yours, go ahead, but acknowledge that you do this by your own decision and thought process, and at some point some agency or lawyer will prosecute/sue someone for violating the guidelines and going over the 10,000 limit you point out.
What the rear axle in and of itself can carry wont be the determining factor.
And whether or not a train engine has leaf or coil springs has nothing to do with springs spec'ed out to give that soft ride at a 10,000 weight limit in this pickup.

No, you stated the coils were to blame for the light payload which is completely untrue. Have you owned a Ram 2500 with rear coil suspensions and towed a 5th wheel with it? I have.

Maybe you didn't mean for it to be read the way you wrote it, but, other than the oddly placed comma, your statement directly attributed the light payload to the rear coil springs.
"it's sad, but the coil suspension makes that light riding truck have very little payload after you allow for the diesels weight"

And the truck does ride very well. You may not have been on these forums then, but I did a test with a friend who had a:

2014 Ram 3500 SRW short bed, 4x4, crew cab, 6.7L diesel
and compared it to my then
2014 Ram 2500 short bed, 4x4, crew cab, 6.4L Hemi

And we towed his 14,000# 41' 5er back to back with each truck and MEASURED the squat difference in the rear suspension, along with 0-60 and a few other things. I posted pictures on this forum and a written report. My 2500 squatted exactly 1 inch more than the leaf sprung 3500 that had a 500# higher rear GAWR (7000# vs 6500#) and a 1500# higher GVWR (11,500# vs 10,000#).

I also did a comparison to the 2007 Ram 3500 SRW Megacab (with factory rear overload leaf springs and Torqlift Stable Loads) to my 2014 RAM 2500 with the same 5er, back to back. I measured squat there too and the 2500 squatted less than the 3500 - even with the rear suspension add ons the 3500 had. So yes, I feel I'm pretty qualified to talk about the characteristics of a coil sprung Ram 2500 truck.

The point about the trains was to illustrate that coil springs do not equal weak as most uneducated assume because before the 2014 RAM 2500, they were typically found on lighter duty applications in the automotive world.