Ram 3500 MPG test

FishOnOne wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
^^^ That made me lol. Not passive aggressive at all....

Actually that's a fair question.

Ram/cummins are in a very competitive market right now with the Duramax and Power Stroke and last year cummins made some major design changes in order to support an increase in HP, Torque and reduce weight. So we know one plant supports the Ram trucks supply but what about the other markets that aren't in this market. Did they go to a CP4.2 pump, CGI blocks, increased crank strength,hydraulic lifters, etc...? Did these other markets require these changes in order to stay competitive?

But he did not ask it this way, and I would not consider asking the question this way to be passive aggressive. Two plants actually support the US pickup truck supply, CMEP and RMEP. CMEP only supports the Ram truck supply, and RMEP does both pickup truck engines when needed as well as the other truck/bus classes.

This is Cummins Rocky Mount Engine Plant

As far as changes go, it depends on the change and the regional market. Most of the changes that were made were to comply with the upcoming emissions and fuel economy standards. However, some of those changes are not needed in the foreign markets. As far as the US version, yes, they are the same and have two versions(an efficiency and performance) just like the pick-ups.

You have to remember that Ike times don't matter to Cummins. Their main goal is dependability and efficiency. So while you see being first up a mountain as a goal for competitiveness, they don't. They see being able to get up that mountain day in and day out out in cold or hot temps more efficiently. In my view, Ford is catering to a different kind of customer than Cummins and their is nothing wrong with that. Ram on the other hand is a different story. I feel Ram probably wants Cummins to push the envelope on the horsepower front(which they can easily do if they wanted), but that is not their main goal.