Ram 3500 MPG test

4x4ord wrote:
No matter how you look at it, past sales numbers isn't going to help you squeeze 30% more miles out of a gallon of fuel. Unless the Cummins can compete in mpg the sales numbers are going to be dropping pretty significantly.

That is if you go by tests that are performed on different days and different conditions rather than real world fuel economy from millions of miles not just 70. I bet a million dollars that if it were the Ford that got 30% less fuel mileage and these tests were performed on different days and different condition then you and Fish would be crying foul as well.

No matter how you look at it, past sales numbers isn't going to help you squeeze 30% more miles out of a gallon of fuel. Unless the Cummins can compete in mpg the sales numbers are going to be dropping pretty significantly.

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4x4ord wrote:
^^^^Hehe... that would have made sense except in the first 3 years of 6.7 production Ford produced 500,000 6.7s..... about 165,000 per year and In 2016 they built 179,900 6.7 Powerstrokes. From December 2012 to October 2019 Cummins produced 1,000,000 6.7s for Ram... 146,000 per year. So either Ram is selling a lot of gas powered one tons or Ford is putting their diesel in a lot of 3/4 tons or these sales numbers are misleading. Regardless of what was true in the past I'm expecting new truck buyers to be extremely interested in both the new Powerestroke and the 7.3 gas.

You are the numbers guy, yet fail to understand the average built per year over 7 years has little to do with the 2019 numbers, as RAM has been coming on stronger and stronger each year.

4x4ord wrote:
^^^^And yet Ford is producing more 6.7 diesels than what Cummins is building for Ram. I find it surprising that more Ram guys don't go with the diesel.

What are the numbers for the pickups? You only posted total production numbers and didn't take out the PSD 6.7L engines built for the F-650/750, cutaway vans(mainly ambulance vans), class c motorhomes, and so on. How many of those were specifically built for the Superduty pickups?

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
That’s it, thanks!

So FISH I would like to hear what your thoughts are on this chart? Is it a “JEWEL” ?

Ram...The new McDonalds crown jewel.

There's always next year and maybe you'll get a another new transmission from another outsourced supplier to compete.

Too funny!

Chart shows 3500/350, 4500/450 and 5500/550 class 3-5 sales. 10,001-19,500#

Honestly don’t know but the RAM gasser seems to be popular also.

^^^^Hehe... that would have made sense except in the first 3 years of 6.7 production Ford produced 500,000 6.7s..... about 165,000 per year and In 2016 they built 179,900 6.7 Powerstrokes. From December 2012 to October 2019 Cummins produced 1,000,000 6.7s for Ram... 146,000 per year. So either Ram is selling a lot of gas powered one tons or Ford is putting their diesel in a lot of 3/4 tons or these sales numbers are misleading. Regardless of what was true in the past I'm expecting new truck buyers to be extremely interested in both the new Powerestroke and the 7.3 gas.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
That’s it, thanks!

So FISH I would like to hear what your thoughts are on this chart? Is it a “JEWEL” ?

Ram...The new McDonalds crown jewel.

There's always next year and maybe you'll get a another new transmission from another outsourced supplier to compete.

4x4ord wrote:
^^^^And yet Ford is producing more 6.7 diesels than what Cummins is building for Ram. I find it surprising that more Ram guys don't go with the diesel.

Ford trucks must need a lot of replacement engines? We know the extra's are not going in boats, as only a handful of 7.3 Power Strokes went in boats. Wait, do they use them in hot air balloons?