Ram 3500 MPG test
The Ram MPG test video. Wasn't expecting that big a difference.
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FishOnOne wrote:
When you don't produce that many engines your exposure to issues is far less.
In that case, the Cummins 6.7L is by far the most produced engine out of the three.ShinerBock wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
larry barnhart wrote:
I'm talking about the "new" 2020 Powerstroke. Ford has a history of having a few "glitches" with new diesel releases..... ;)
I lived it first hand with my 2003.
To be fair, I think this applies to all of them not just Fords. The Cummins 6.7L had turbo, head gasket, and EGR issues when it first came out. The LB7 Duramax had injector failures due to bad design. GM had to issue a recall and extend the warranty of the new units. The LB7 Duramax had head gasket issues and overheating issues due to the small intake manifold. The LBZ had sticking turbos, but was pretty reliable other than that. The LMM had piston issues if you turned up the power in them. The LML is awesome other than its fuel system.
All three had issues with new engines or new iterations of engines so I don't think it is fair to singe out Ford.
Well Cummins/RAM didn’t have billion dollars issues that caused a falling out of the partnership.
And I’ve never read about billions of dollars of warranty issues with the Duramax.
Issues, certainly. But there is a matter of degrees.....
True, although if you look at it that way then it would be Navistar who had all the "glitches" with those pre-6.7L engines, not Ford. Now that Navistar engines are no longer available in these trucks anymore then bringing them up in a discussion about engines built by Ford would be a moot point.
Although, it wasn't just Ford that had issues with Navistar diesels. They also had issues with their Maxx-Force engine and the rebranded "C" engines they built for Caterpillar to put in the CAT semis. That was a billion dollar F up for sure.
When you don't produce that many engines your exposure to issues is far less.Bionic Man wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
larry barnhart wrote:
I'm talking about the "new" 2020 Powerstroke. Ford has a history of having a few "glitches" with new diesel releases..... ;)
I lived it first hand with my 2003.
To be fair, I think this applies to all of them not just Fords. The Cummins 6.7L had turbo, head gasket, and EGR issues when it first came out. The LB7 Duramax had injector failures due to bad design. GM had to issue a recall and extend the warranty of the new units. The LB7 Duramax had head gasket issues and overheating issues due to the small intake manifold. The LBZ had sticking turbos, but was pretty reliable other than that. The LMM had piston issues if you turned up the power in them. The LML is awesome other than its fuel system.
All three had issues with new engines or new iterations of engines so I don't think it is fair to singe out Ford.
Well Cummins/RAM didn’t have billion dollars issues that caused a falling out of the partnership.
And I’ve never read about billions of dollars of warranty issues with the Duramax.
Issues, certainly. But there is a matter of degrees.....
True, although if you look at it that way then it would be Navistar who had all the "glitches" with those pre-6.7L engines, not Ford. Now that Navistar engines are no longer available in these trucks anymore then bringing them up in a discussion about engines built by Ford would be a moot point.
Although, it wasn't just Ford that had issues with Navistar diesels. They also had issues with their Maxx-Force engine and the rebranded "C" engines they built for Caterpillar to put in the CAT semis. That was a billion dollar F up for sure.ShinerBock wrote:
larry barnhart wrote:
I'm talking about the "new" 2020 Powerstroke. Ford has a history of having a few "glitches" with new diesel releases..... ;)
I lived it first hand with my 2003.
To be fair, I think this applies to all of them not just Fords. The Cummins 6.7L had turbo, head gasket, and EGR issues when it first came out. The LB7 Duramax had injector failures due to bad design. GM had to issue a recall and extend the warranty of the new units. The LB7 Duramax had head gasket issues and overheating issues due to the small intake manifold. The LBZ had sticking turbos, but was pretty reliable other than that. The LMM had piston issues if you turned up the power in them. The LML is awesome other than its fuel system.
All three had issues with new engines or new iterations of engines so I don't think it is fair to singe out Ford.
Well Cummins/RAM didn’t have billion dollars issues that caused a falling out of the partnership.
And I’ve never read about billions of dollars of warranty issues with the Duramax.
Issues, certainly. But there is a matter of degrees.....larry barnhart wrote:
I'm talking about the "new" 2020 Powerstroke. Ford has a history of having a few "glitches" with new diesel releases..... ;)
I lived it first hand with my 2003.
To be fair, I think this applies to all of them not just Fords. The Cummins 6.7L had turbo, head gasket, and EGR issues when it first came out. The LB7 Duramax had injector failures due to bad design. GM had to issue a recall and extend the warranty of the new units. The LB7 Duramax had head gasket issues and overheating issues due to the small intake manifold. The LBZ had sticking turbos, but was pretty reliable other than that. The LMM had piston issues if you turned up the power in them. The LML is awesome other than its fuel system.
All three had issues with new engines or new iterations of engines so I don't think it is fair to singe out Ford.- Message didn't send. Chevman
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"there doesn't seem to be a stinker in the group."
I concur.
I agree... But there's also One that stands out from the group!
Let's see after some time and a few miles... ;)
At 7.5 years here's where I'm at! What about yours? I believe it was 2003 when Dodge has issues with the Dana rear gear. Nothing is perfect . Chevman
My truck gets used as a daily driver and essentially gets driven every day.
I'm talking about the "new" 2020 Powerstroke. Ford has a history of having a few "glitches" with new diesel releases..... ;)
I lived it first hand with my 2003.ShinerBock wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"you drive even slower than I do"
How do you determine that?
His numbers: 29,500 miles / 701 driven hours = 42.1 mph average
Fish's numbers: 183,334 miles / 4,637 driven hours = 39.8 mph average
Your numbers: 72,944 miles / 1,860 driven hours = 39.2 mph average
I believe my average is between 44-45 mph(mostly from our 75-80 mph highways speeds) and I know my idle time is roughly 9.7% of total hours, but I don't know the exact numbers since I haven't driven my truck in a while.
That makes sense! ThanksCummins12V98 wrote:
"you drive even slower than I do"
How do you determine that?
His numbers: 29,500 miles / 701 driven hours = 42.1 mph average
Fish's numbers: 183,334 miles / 4,637 driven hours = 39.8 mph average
Your numbers: 72,944 miles / 1,860 driven hours = 39.2 mph average
I believe my average is between 44-45 mph(mostly from our 75-80 mph highways speeds) and I know my idle time is roughly 9.7% of total hours, but I don't know the exact numbers since I haven't driven my truck in a while.- "you drive even slower than I do"
How do you determine that?
