RAM EcoDiesel a Flop for Towing

jus2shy wrote:
Ok, let's stick with the Ford brand. So for the 2009 to 2010 5.4 equipped trucks that had the 11000 pound tow rating, should they had been derated? I owned one. I can tell you those trucks would had struggled more than the ecodiesel in the same pull.

Yes, those trucks should have been derated and I have even stated the same back then. Although I don't know why you would bring that up unless you are trying to make this a brand issue by deflecting the current topic. As I said before, this as nothing to do with a brand. I am loyal to myself and my expectations, not to a brand that doesn't give tow shnits about me. Regardless of the brand I think a truck should be able to tow its tow rating doing at least the speed limit of any US highway even up hill or it should lower its tow rating. I also think a truck's payload and tow rating should be on every window sticker.

jus2shy wrote:
Should Chevy have to derate because their truck keeps shifting between gears and doesn't hold 65mph up that same hill with a similar load?

Yes, it should lower its tow rating if it can't handle the load and has to drop down to 45 mph.

jus2shy wrote:
RAM has always said that if someone wants more tow performance, they would buy a 2500, different marketing strategy from Ford.

It is not about of wanting more performance. It is about a truck being able to do what a manufacturer states it can do. I am not about making excuses or expecting less from any manufacturer. People can keep expecting less from their favorite makes, but I expect more. I expect that if a manufacturer gives their non commercial truck a tow rating, then it should be able to pull that tow rating doing the allowed trailering speed limit on any highway in the US and Canada. If not, then they need to lessen the tow rating to something it to a weight it can pull and do the speed limit on.

Yes, my expectations are high, but the F150 2.7L EB in that test was able to do it so what is the excuse for the Ram 3.0L which had a higher tow rating?

jus2shy wrote:
In the end, it is a different truck meeting a different set of demands with more prioritization on fuel economy versus tow acceleration Performance.

That is fine, just lower the tow ratings to a reasonable number to where you can at least keep up with traffic when towing instead of giving it some number it can't do keeping the speed limit just so you can say it is "best in class". Again, this is not about Ford versus Chevy versus Ram. This is about my expectations and how I believe any non commercial truck should be able to do the speed limit when towing their max rated weight up any hill in the US or have its tow rating lowered to a weight it can.