RAM EcoDiesel a Flop for Towing

hone eagle wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
I would never run my truck or any of my other vehicles at WOT up a long grade or just about any other time for that matter, so what it will do at WOT doesn't mean much to me. I don't believe in abusing the machinery just to get up a hill a minute or two faster.

Look at the video again. The Ram Ecodiesel was screaming (for a diesel) at 3,500-4,000 rpm at wide open throttle only being able to do 50 mph for most of the way up with no power to spare if needed. It struggled almost all the way up the mountain and took longer to get up the mountain.
Ram 1500 3.0L Ecodiesel tows 7,200 lbs up the Ike Gauntlet


The 2.7L Ecoboost was between 2,500-4,000 rpm not at wide open throttle most of the way while easily able to do the speed limit with power to spare if needed. It had the quicker time up the mountain with little struggle.
Ford F150 2.7L Ecoboost tows 7,200 lbs up the Ike Gauntlet

Ironically, the Ram gives that 1500 Ecodiesel a higher tow rating than what Ford gives that 2.7L Ecoboost. This is what I am arguing about because I think it is a bunch of bull because like you, I don't think a vehicle should have to struggle that hard with no power to spare when towing less than it's max. I think that Ram needs to lower that tow rating on that Ecodiesel to something it can do without struggling so hard.

Why do you have to go up the mountain at 50 mph? Everything is a compromise and everyone choses the compromise that works best for them.

Why? because the sae tow standard that Ram fans constantly throw out there -uses this hill and that speed limit?
If it failed 'the standard'..........

They do? I think they are both interesting trucks and if I was looking for an economical half ton I would check them both out. I do take some exception to the idea that the EB is working less hard because it is working below it's rated max power. Everything else being equal, I would expect a 2.7 L engine to be more stressed than a 3.0L engine when producing equal HP. I would also wait until more real world fuel economy numbers come in as the smaller diesels have a reputation of meeting or exceeding EPA estimates while gassers never seem to. Time will tell but I think both trucks will sell well.