RAM EcoDiesel a Flop for Towing

ShinerBock wrote:
Actually it is a bit more than that. Please read at the bottom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Perhaps you should read your own link. It confirms that one PS is the equivalent of 98.6 % of one mechanical HP. What has changed is the way engines are tested and according to the C&D article, the test protocols are almost identical, resulting in differences of less than 1% which for all you or I know could fall on the European side.

I think I can be relatively confident that the tow ratings set by all the truck manufacturers have a lot more to do with marketing and getting their trucks at least safely through the warranty period without breaking, than they do with guys on the internet pulling arbitrary numbers out of their backsides as to what is an acceptable speed to get up a hill.

My aversion to operating at WOT comes from having iffy cars in my youth that I had to buy parts for and repair myself if they broke. That and decades of doing derated takeoffs in aircraft. Not particularly rational perhaps but no more irrational than you believing a smaller engine putting out more HP at WOT is going to be as durable as a larger one putting out less. Not to mention the fact diesel fuel acts as a lubricant while gasoline is a solvent.

Also, there are a bit more ways to make more power than those that you stated like allowing air to move more quickly and freely through the engine, cooling the incoming air, and increasing compression ratio to name a few more.

Weren't you the one who stated the ED had the higher compression ratio. Improving flow and cooling the intake charge are just other methods of raising manifold pressure.

No, I didn't

Then perhaps you could explain just exactly how

So you are really telling me that the few refineries we have switch over to making #1 diesel fuel for the whole United States, but make an acception for California, Oregon, and Washington? Do pigs also fly where you come from?

should have been taken.

No, it depends on if a fanboy wants to make excuses for his favorite brands engine too.

You throw the fanboy label around pretty loosely for someone who doesn't post what he drives in either a signature or profile. One thing you will never see me do on this forum is trash someone else's ride. I leave that to the real fanboys. I'm not a fan of either of these trucks or trucks in general. After moving to a town home from an acreage, I wouldn't even have a truck except for the 5th wheel which my wife likes. It spends four months of the year under a cover hooked to a battery tender and another four getting moved out of the way so I can get my collector car in and out of the garage. So, if there is another RV in our future and I have my way, it will be a class A, which unless I buy a used pusher will in all likelihood be powered by Ford. If I need a truck I will borrow it from one of my kids.

Although quite different, I think both Ford and Chrysler have a good thing going with these trucks and will both find their niche with those who appreciate what each has to offer. I have both a diesel and a turbo DI gasser in my garage and driveway and have had small diesels in sedans. I liked them all just fine.

Trust me, I would like to say my opinion and be done with it, but he keeps responding and challenging my opinion so you got what we have here here which is the way he wants it. So he gets it..... I don't like it anymore than you do.

So you're the only one around here allowed to challenge opinions. Someone should have told me. Wait a minute, you just did.