Ram moving back across the border?

We (US) finally have someone that can negotiate and get things done, and sometimes you have to threaten to do something drastic in order to get people to the table. To date, there's been no incentive for anyone to negotiate with us in good faith, and no one to influence US businesses to stay US.

Sometimes just the threat to do something gets things done.

Mike

John & Angela wrote:

Walaby wrote:

Charlie D. wrote:
A number of Mexican officials are lamenting that new jobs will not be forthcoming and lay offs are expected.

I am not saying threats of heavy import taxes has anything to do with it.

Oh no! Layoffs for Mexican workers? I for one, am glad to see it. Doesnt matter to me if this was in the planning stages before Trump or not. Bottom line, more jobs for Americans, and right now, that's all that matters.

I don't care if Trump takes credit for it or not. Not like Obama hasn't taken credit for things he had no influence on, but 'happened' during his watch.

I personally think his positions that he has taken has influenced businesses to rethink what they are doing. And I like the idea of using every tool in your arsenal, to include threats of higher tariffs in order to influence businesses to move back.

Mike

Although every one likes to see jobs come to their country I think the concern is that he is firing off these threats without looking at consequences. Currently five million American jobs are directly attributed to American exports to the very quickly growing Mexican middle class. Starting a tariff war could cost the livelihood of millions of Americans. Countries like Argentina, Brazil and Canada could benefit "bigly" from a trade war between the US and Mexico as that growing middle class is going to buy their products from someone. There are always two sides to a story. I just think negotiation works better in situations like this. Latin America countries are already looking at possible scenarios depending how things go including alternate trade and defense alliances. Sometimes it pays to play nice with neighbours that have options.

Very well said. Looking at the bigger picture.

Walaby wrote:

Charlie D. wrote:
A number of Mexican officials are lamenting that new jobs will not be forthcoming and lay offs are expected.

I am not saying threats of heavy import taxes has anything to do with it.

Oh no! Layoffs for Mexican workers? I for one, am glad to see it. Doesnt matter to me if this was in the planning stages before Trump or not. Bottom line, more jobs for Americans, and right now, that's all that matters.

I don't care if Trump takes credit for it or not. Not like Obama hasn't taken credit for things he had no influence on, but 'happened' during his watch.

I personally think his positions that he has taken has influenced businesses to rethink what they are doing. And I like the idea of using every tool in your arsenal, to include threats of higher tariffs in order to influence businesses to move back.

Mike

Although every one likes to see jobs come to their country I think the concern is that he is firing off these threats without looking at consequences. Currently five million American jobs are directly attributed to American exports to the very quickly growing Mexican middle class. Starting a tariff war could cost the livelihood of millions of Americans. Countries like Argentina, Brazil and Canada could benefit "bigly" from a trade war between the US and Mexico as that growing middle class is going to buy their products from someone. There are always two sides to a story. I just think negotiation works better in situations like this. Latin America countries are already looking at possible scenarios depending how things go including alternate trade and defense alliances. Sometimes it pays to play nice with neighbours that have options.

Charlie D. wrote:
A number of Mexican officials are lamenting that new jobs will not be forthcoming and lay offs are expected.

I am not saying threats of heavy import taxes has anything to do with it.

Oh no! Layoffs for Mexican workers? I for one, am glad to see it. Doesnt matter to me if this was in the planning stages before Trump or not. Bottom line, more jobs for Americans, and right now, that's all that matters.

I don't care if Trump takes credit for it or not. Not like Obama hasn't taken credit for things he had no influence on, but 'happened' during his watch.

I personally think his positions that he has taken has influenced businesses to rethink what they are doing. And I like the idea of using every tool in your arsenal, to include threats of higher tariffs in order to influence businesses to move back.

Mike

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FISH, want to do a group purchase with me?

Negative Ghost Rider.... Ram is still a foreign brand.

Charlie D. wrote:
Why is Ford shutting down construction of a new facility in Mexico and investing those billion(s) on new infrastructure here in the states.

Saw in MSN today that many support and parts manufacturing companies are now stuck with various stages of construction in Mexico. A number of Mexican officials are lamenting that new jobs will not be forthcoming and lay offs are expected.

I am not saying threats of heavy import taxes has anything to do with it.

go back and read mich800 posts

Why is Ford shutting down construction of a new facility in Mexico and investing those billion(s) on new infrastructure here in the states.

Saw in MSN today that many support and parts manufacturing companies are now stuck with various stages of construction in Mexico. A number of Mexican officials are lamenting that new jobs will not be forthcoming and lay offs are expected.

I am not saying threats of heavy import taxes has anything to do with it.

thomasmnile wrote:

mich800 wrote:

Where did I mention the President or "dictator"? You said companies are not politically driven. But the business environment relative to other countries or localities both in costs and stability does in fact have an impact on where and how business operate.

True. Didn't Toyota lead the charge (Japansese & Asian automakers) to establish manufacturing facilities in the US decades ago because of A: US demand for their vehicles, and B: To dodge import tariffs on Japanese vehicles in place at the time?

Saw the North American CEO of Toyota on TV today. Said they are moving the Corolla from Canada to Mexico.

With a Business friendly environment manufacturing will stay here or move back.

John & Angela wrote:

spud1957 wrote:
There have been more jobs lost in the auto industry to automation than moving plants outside the US. If the desire is to save American jobs, why don't I hear anyone beating on that drum.

Do you mean, stop automation and go back to manual assembly? Seems to me that would be the inediate end of any manufacturer. How would they compete?

Nope, didn't say that. Only an observation not a position. They both have the same result; lower production costs and loss of American workers.