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JRscooby wrote:
PA12DRVR wrote:
Hope the better half gets better soon, Grit.
The last time I bought a truck, as I've done for 20 years, I looked at my expected tow/ carry requirements and bought a truck where the requirements fit within that truck's XXWR numbers.
Now that it's been nearly 4 years on that truck, when I have a load to carry or pull, I like to get a sense of what the load weighs, but, as I've done since the 70's, I decide to carry or pull based on experience, conditions, distance, terrain, time of year, and, yes, XXWR numbers...but those numbers are one of only 6-7 factors and certainly not the dispositive factor. While I admit to factoring the ratings in to a purchase decision, nevertheless, it's always intriguing to me the degree of hyperventilating that occurs over ratings.
As Grit said, anyone that buys a new 2500 truck to pull 20,000#'s needs to feel some pain. My buddy in La Plata county pulls incredible loads with his 80's vintage F350...probably close to or over 20k...but not far, not fast, and certainly not as a dedicated new truck / load combo.
Most my life I have preferred GM cars and Ford pickups. Last time I needed to replace my 20 YO, rusted F150 I walked into Ford dealer, told the salesman what I was going to tow. He handed me a stack of sales brochures, walked away from me. Went next door to Chevy dealer. Same question, same results, except he added a DVD. Just down the street, Dodge dealer, asked a kid in suit the same question. "I don't know, but I will find out" Took a couple days, but I bought the first Dodge in my life. 6 months later, took less than hour to buy the 2nd new Dodge.
Now it does not happen often, but I will hook onto a trailer that puts me well over the ratings, but if I had bought a truck just because it was rated to tow what I wanted to tow, then they cut the rating, I would be mad, think I would be looking for a class to take action
Roflmao
To the last sentence.mkirsch wrote:
Is there really a noticeable difference between 17,790 and 20,000?
I don't think you're going to be any happier at 17.790 than you were at 20,000. At either weight you're blissfully ignorant, or hating life if you have to tow very far.
This is not a "decrease in capability" as they keep repeating in the video. The truck never had the capability in the first place.
But the truck was advertised and sold as having that capacity. To me it sounds a lot like getting casino built, declaring bankruptcy before the workers are paid, flying away on you private plane.- Is there really a noticeable difference between 17,790 and 20,000?
I don't think you're going to be any happier at 17.790 than you were at 20,000. At either weight you're blissfully ignorant, or hating life if you have to tow very far.
This is not a "decrease in capability" as they keep repeating in the video. The truck never had the capability in the first place. PA12DRVR wrote:
Hope the better half gets better soon, Grit.
The last time I bought a truck, as I've done for 20 years, I looked at my expected tow/ carry requirements and bought a truck where the requirements fit within that truck's XXWR numbers.
Now that it's been nearly 4 years on that truck, when I have a load to carry or pull, I like to get a sense of what the load weighs, but, as I've done since the 70's, I decide to carry or pull based on experience, conditions, distance, terrain, time of year, and, yes, XXWR numbers...but those numbers are one of only 6-7 factors and certainly not the dispositive factor. While I admit to factoring the ratings in to a purchase decision, nevertheless, it's always intriguing to me the degree of hyperventilating that occurs over ratings.
As Grit said, anyone that buys a new 2500 truck to pull 20,000#'s needs to feel some pain. My buddy in La Plata county pulls incredible loads with his 80's vintage F350...probably close to or over 20k...but not far, not fast, and certainly not as a dedicated new truck / load combo.
Most my life I have preferred GM cars and Ford pickups. Last time I needed to replace my 20 YO, rusted F150 I walked into Ford dealer, told the salesman what I was going to tow. He handed me a stack of sales brochures, walked away from me. Went next door to Chevy dealer. Same question, same results, except he added a DVD. Just down the street, Dodge dealer, asked a kid in suit the same question. "I don't know, but I will find out" Took a couple days, but I bought the first Dodge in my life. 6 months later, took less than hour to buy the 2nd new Dodge.
Now it does not happen often, but I will hook onto a trailer that puts me well over the ratings, but if I had bought a truck just because it was rated to tow what I wanted to tow, then they cut the rating, I would be mad, think I would be looking for a class to take action- Hope the better half gets better soon, Grit.
The last time I bought a truck, as I've done for 20 years, I looked at my expected tow/ carry requirements and bought a truck where the requirements fit within that truck's XXWR numbers.
Now that it's been nearly 4 years on that truck, when I have a load to carry or pull, I like to get a sense of what the load weighs, but, as I've done since the 70's, I decide to carry or pull based on experience, conditions, distance, terrain, time of year, and, yes, XXWR numbers...but those numbers are one of only 6-7 factors and certainly not the dispositive factor. While I admit to factoring the ratings in to a purchase decision, nevertheless, it's always intriguing to me the degree of hyperventilating that occurs over ratings.
As Grit said, anyone that buys a new 2500 truck to pull 20,000#'s needs to feel some pain. My buddy in La Plata county pulls incredible loads with his 80's vintage F350...probably close to or over 20k...but not far, not fast, and certainly not as a dedicated new truck / load combo. ford truck guy wrote:
JRscooby wrote:
Just watched a youtube posted by RV miles talking about Ford reducing ratings on some trucks already sold.
Look for new stickers in mail.
The "new" stickers will not be mailed.. According to my dealer, its treated as a warranty item.... Once the new sticker arrives at the dealer, you schedule a visit there for them to remove and replace with the new one.
What FTG says, makes more sense. I'd just not worry about it, carry on, tow/haul as usual. In the event the truck is in dealer shop, for other service, they can lick the sticker at that time.
Jerry- (People who live by ratings tags). Minds blown!
JRscooby wrote:
Just watched a youtube posted by RV miles talking about Ford reducing ratings on some trucks already sold.
Look for new stickers in mail.
The "new" stickers will not be mailed.. According to my dealer, its treated as a warranty item.... Once the new sticker arrives at the dealer, you schedule a visit there for them to remove and replace with the new one.- Just watched a youtube posted by RV miles talking about Ford reducing ratings on some trucks already sold.
Look for new stickers in mail. Cummins12V98 wrote:
Let's get real here, who in the HE!! would hook up a 20k trailer to a 2500 in any brand??????
Plenty of people would and do, right wrong or indifferent. Especially older trucks, farmers etc.
But anyone dumb enough to buy a brand new 2023 truck to tow a 20k anything and gets a 3/4 ton deserves to have to bear the cost of trading it in for a bigger truck! Not the mfgs fault.
