Diesel Brothers

ShinerBock wrote:

SidecarFlip wrote:
Additionally, all my farm tractors are diesel as well and all are Tier2 (you know what that is?) If you don't' let me explain. They are all emissions exempt. Run fine but they do produce visible particulates (as all T2 engines do under load) so you can also buy me 3 new T4 compliant tractors to farm with along with a new T4 pickup truck and a comparable T 4 tractor to the ones I now own free and clear will set you back around an additional 250 grand plus the 80 or so for the pickup truck and I'll take them all to the shredder, no problem, you have the jack right?

Duh

Actually I do know a lot about diesel emissions. Not only have I worked for a diesel manufacturer for many years(Cummins), I have worked on the customer, dealer, and manufacturing side of various vehicles OE's from Ford to Peterbilt since I was 16 so well over two decades. I know full well what diesel emission regulations are, their actual impact, and how they came to be. I also have a farm/ranch with over 50 head of cattle and a JD 4430 with a cab.

However, we are not talking about non-road tier 2 equipment. I am talking about your 97 truck that you chipped for increase power output that increased the emissions even more. Now before you go an say this truck was exempt from federal emissions, let me remind you of the diesel emissions standards of 1990 and 1994 which applies to your truck.

You see, federal diesel emissions standards didn't just start after your truck was made, they started years before, but because they were considerably more strict after 2004 lowering limits below a gram, most people didn't know much about these years because stuff like EGR's and DPF's weren't required to meet these standards. For on road pickup diesel engines the major emission requirements for diesel engines are as follows- 1985, 1990, 1994, 1998, 2004, 2007, and 2011. Even though the EPA didn't start using the tier system until 1996, that does not mean prior years were exempt from emissions regulations.


So not only were you emitting more than me stock, but even more so now that you chipped your truck (and do not comply with your year's PM/NOx requirement), you have higher fuel consumption, and you use over three times the oil. Yet, you are chastising me for dirtying your air.

Blah, blah. Hey bub, I have the EPA certification number affixed to the rad cross member from Gale Banks pertaining to my truck and his aftermarket modifications. It don't use any oil and gets 21 empty. Want me to get it for ya, I can if you want it.

Candidly, I don't care what rabbit hole you stick your head in either.

Diesel Brothers were in violation and got caught, Plain and vrey simole.