Registration Rant

lakeside013104 wrote:
I cannot believe you removed my post. It said nothing political. It only stated one of the reasons why our registration fees go up and it was directly related to OP topic.

Why do I bother to try and add my RVing experiences to this post and take the time to makeup and type an informative and intelligent post just to have it removed.

Moderator, your decision to pull my post was in it's self political bias just because you did not agree with what I posted. Shame on you.

Lakeside

I did not delete your post. I have been camping the last eight days and just now am catching up on posts while having a million dollar view on the coast. However, you know the forum rules and the other moderator or admin may have enforced them.

skyhammer wrote:
I moved to Oregon from California a little over 2 years ago.It is like I moved to a different country.
It seemed to me as though most things in Oregon were nearly free when compared to California.
Real estate is cheap. My 4000 sq.ft house built in 2014 was $450,000. It has 4 bedrooms, 4 bath rooms, hardwood and tile floors, granite counter tops etc.Insurance on the house is 400% cheaper than I was paying in California for a 1200 sq.ft, 100 year old farm house.
Vehicle fees and insurance are 3-400% cheaper.
Electricity is 10 cents KW, 300% cheaper.
Gas is 75 cents/gallon cheaper.
It took about 15 minutes to get my CCW. $55 for 4 years and no restrictions on how many or the type of pistol I want to carry.
In California, my CCW is only good for 2 years and it cost a little under $1000.
You have to start the renewal process 9 months before it expires and bring in the 3 pistols you are allowed to be inspected.I can't carry the pistols I when I first got my CCW as they are now outlawed.
In Oregon, I can buy a gun and walk out the store with it is 15 minutes or less.
I was also able to buy all the suppressors I want, if I can afford the federal tax.
Income tax is about the same as in California.
No sales tax is a game changer, especially on large purchases,saving $4-10,000
on a new car.
No smog tests, although is rural Northern and Eastern Calif. there are no smog tests in 18 counties.
The weather in mid coastal Oregon is about the same as in Northern Calif. where I come from. It rains more days in Oregon, but the volume is much less.

Darn you Skyhammer, when you lay it all out like that it makes me want to get the heck out of California. LOL
I thought Oregon was turning very liberal as well?
I agree getting a CCW here is a joke. I’m sure you’re aware now we have to get a permit and pay a fee to buy “Ammo”. And in LA County you have to leave a finger print.
So much for freedom and the second amendment.

To me the whole thing about this subject is there are entities that think they can charge beyond a reasonable amount taking advantage of those paying. On the other hand, most people do understand business and it's usual level of fairness....that fees or expenses are normally based on actual costs plus a reasonable amount of profit.


Fees in Oregon have doubled every ten years which used to be $20 for 2 yrs back in the late 70's. If you made the same $20 an hour back then you were doing well, not getting rich but well. Now if you made the same 185 dollars that registration costs today, you would be able to save well over two thirds of your income. I say this for another way to look at it.

Based on this discussion, what do some of you think is a most reasonable amount for truck registration?

I moved to Oregon from California a little over 2 years ago.It is like I moved to a different country.
It seemed to me as though most things in Oregon were nearly free when compared to California.
Real estate is cheap. My 4000 sq.ft house built in 2014 was $450,000. It has 4 bedrooms, 4 bath rooms, hardwood and tile floors, granite counter tops etc.Insurance on the house is 400% cheaper than I was paying in California for a 1200 sq.ft, 100 year old farm house.
Vehicle fees and insurance are 3-400% cheaper.
Electricity is 10 cents KW, 300% cheaper.
Gas is 75 cents/gallon cheaper.
It took about 15 minutes to get my CCW. $55 for 4 years and no restrictions on how many or the type of pistol I want to carry.
In California, my CCW is only good for 2 years and it cost a little under $1000.
You have to start the renewal process 9 months before it expires and bring in the 3 pistols you are allowed to be inspected.I can't carry the pistols I when I first got my CCW as they are now outlawed.
In Oregon, I can buy a gun and walk out the store with it is 15 minutes or less.
I was also able to buy all the suppressors I want, if I can afford the federal tax.
Income tax is about the same as in California.
No sales tax is a game changer, especially on large purchases,saving $4-10,000
on a new car.
No smog tests, although is rural Northern and Eastern Calif. there are no smog tests in 18 counties.
The weather in mid coastal Oregon is about the same as in Northern Calif. where I come from. It rains more days in Oregon, but the volume is much less.

JoeChiOhki wrote:
With the registration going by total length of the RV in Oregon, plus the registration fees having gone up, you'd probably be at around at least a hundred dollars more if both the truck and camper renewed in the same year. If it was just the pickup truck, I believe it wound be around $150 for two years.

NE Oregon, $86.00 for my truck and $86 for the TC every 2 years. My truck is not tagged as commercial either.

With the registration going by total length of the RV in Oregon, plus the registration fees having gone up, you'd probably be at around at least a hundred dollars more if both the truck and camper renewed in the same year. If it was just the pickup truck, I believe it wound be around $150 for two years.

Same here 2002 F350 4 door Dually. 355.00 + 49.00 smog. Got a deal on the smog and it was only on the road last year for 281 miles. What a deal. Thank you Calif.

Im also in California, just got mine. 2006 chevy 2500 $404. Thank god I dont have to smog this year. Im so ready to leave.

Couple things to evaluate.
1 it is not young newcomers to California that raised house prices to $5 millions.
2. homeless people know where they can have good quality of life. Plenty of them in San Francisco and Berkeley, but even more in Las Vegas.
Did not see them in Anchorage.
Is marijuana legal today?

FireGuard wrote:
I just read an article ...

You must have missed the one recent report about how CA now ranks 50th in quality of life. Dead last. It's based on how the gov't treats it's citizens i.e., taxes, fees, regulations, economic opportunities/affordability, not how many sunny days there are in a year.

I was born and raised here in CA. Until I actually lived in another, freer state, I had no idea just how bad CA was. Yeah, sure the weather's great. But for me, I live smack dab in the middle So Cal. I live somewhat close to the beach. Big deal. Haven't gone in over 2 years. To drive ANYWHERE outside of the greater OC/LA area during the day will take you at least 2-3 hrs. or longer. So, yes, while CA is a beautiful state, living in concrete town makes it difficult to enjoy anything beyond, especially when your NOT RETIRED and mostly have only weekends.

Then there's the lack of RV/camper overnight parking ordinances the various cities and counties have. Granted, the homeless parking their beat down rigs all along the coast and everywhere else ruined it for the rest of us. But then you have to ask: Why all the homelessness to begin with? Why does my wife have to drive past tent city everyday on her way to work, right behind a Costco no less?

For us, there's more than just taxes pushing us away. A lot more. Sure, we really don't want to spend our remaining years essentially working for the CA gov't., but we really don't want to fund the political agenda that's been unfolding here for many years. It's not ever going to get cheaper or easier to live and exist in this state if you're a middle class, taxpayer. You can take that to the bank!

As far as "young" people wanting to move here...well, young people are generally dumb and make bad decisions. Then you hit about 35 or 40 and wise up. I'll be turning 50 in a couple years and dare I say, I wised up years ago and it's time to move on.