Replacing a perfectly good Thetford toilet. Few reasons- Primary, original has hand valve at rear of toilet, Margarets having a hard time reaching back to flush. New one will be foot controlled...
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Few reasons- Primary, original has hand valve at rear of toilet, Margarets having a hard time reaching back to flush. New one will be foot controlled...","body@stringLength":"4639","rawBody":"Replacing a perfectly good Thetford toilet.
Few reasons- Primary, original has hand valve at rear of toilet, Margarets having a hard time reaching back to flush. New one will be foot controlled.
Second is replacing the 15\" height with an 18\" tall. Both of us will find easier to use. Thetford Aqua-Magic V Pedal Flush / High Profile Which should also give more knee room. Its also a little deeper or longer front to back. Old one was almost square. Third is I want to add a valve, just because, mostly to throttle water flow. Lastly and motivation toilet is rocking? A lot- always has slightly but getting worse needs addressing. Not leaking at floor or underneath but pulling to see whats going on. Replacing gasket seams might as well replace toilet, other than cost a lot of benefits.
The perverbally can of worms. Decided while waiting for parts to arrive Id remove old toilet and clean up.
Lathered in silicone adhesive, I assume because wet bath. Gasket has dried out and toilet is pivoting on cured sealant at bolts. Problem is sealant was applied up to gasket. New toilet 'may' set but gasket likely will not fit into the existing dam of silicone. I'm going to carefully try to cut sealant at flange edge and expose the top of flange to regain a flat surface. IF I can get the silicone off enough I'll reapply some sealant when setting new gasket. I can understand sealing flange but surprised that simple sealant used to accomplish. Makes it a one time deal?
And from there all turned to pooh. What I discovered as project just kept escalating is the hack job that has led to replacing the toilet flange. In minimalist steps, what led to 10 minuet job gone bad.
After cleaning sealant discovered flange itself is warped all to heck. One of the screws was driven thru flange, wont come out, to 'fix' 2 drywall screws were used. Toilets bolt boss is setting on them. Then noticed screw in front at quite an angle-yep it also missed the wood. The right side, though no 'fixes', sets even higher at bolt. Went round an round finally resigning myself that a new flange needed. Unfortunately mine is glued in (some use a screw on to pipe flange). Looking on line for options decided a 4x3 that goes into pipe instead of over pipe would allow me to cut off old flange and reinstall easily.
Then I stumbled on this. WOW. I didn't know these were made. Slips inside of pipe and uses gasket. Simple, easier to install, makes servicing easy but also allows movement between shower floor/toilet and top of black tank. Slip Joint! So preceded to cut off old flange
Well there's the problem. Hole off center, screws on left missed wood. Right side, screws were seriously over tightened, probably trying to keep toilet from rocking due to left side 'fix'. Two middle screws mushroomed the wood and fiberglass raising flange at bolt almost 3/16\". 2 outer ones pulling flange back down that warped it. (Opps click save and hit post)
New flange set in pipe without gasket. Though I see a tube of sealant because wet bath this is sure a life saver. (NOT changing out toilet past point of return...) Going to glue and screw a backer block on left side of hole even though drilling pilot I can get into wood. Sand down raised right side, flange will be flat... Awaiting toilet to arrive to 'start' working on it.
Just venting... Sad part IMO, opening up and discovering this hack, is production workers pressed to point stuff like this happens- this hack probably saved someone their job","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-06-12T13:02:37.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjQuMTJ8Mi4xfG98MTB8X05WX3wx","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Truck Campers","text":"Truck Campers","time":"2004-07-23T08:16:35.000-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":3,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2656660_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":6245},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"body":"Replacing a perfectly good Thetford toilet.
Few reasons- Primary, original has hand valve at rear of toilet, Margarets having a hard time reaching back to flush. New one will be foot controlled.
Second is replacing the 15\" height with an 18\" tall. Both of us will find easier to use. Thetford Aqua-Magic V Pedal Flush / High Profile Which should also give more knee room. Its also a little deeper or longer front to back. Old one was almost square. Third is I want to add a valve, just because, mostly to throttle water flow. Lastly and motivation toilet is rocking? A lot- always has slightly but getting worse needs addressing. Not leaking at floor or underneath but pulling to see whats going on. Replacing gasket seams might as well replace toilet, other than cost a lot of benefits.
The perverbally can of worms. Decided while waiting for parts to arrive Id remove old toilet and clean up.
Lathered in silicone adhesive, I assume because wet bath. Gasket has dried out and toilet is pivoting on cured sealant at bolts. Problem is sealant was applied up to gasket. New toilet 'may' set but gasket likely will not fit into the existing dam of silicone. I'm going to carefully try to cut sealant at flange edge and expose the top of flange to regain a flat surface. IF I can get the silicone off enough I'll reapply some sealant when setting new gasket. I can understand sealing flange but surprised that simple sealant used to accomplish. Makes it a one time deal?
And from there all turned to pooh. What I discovered as project just kept escalating is the hack job that has led to replacing the toilet flange. In minimalist steps, what led to 10 minuet job gone bad.
After cleaning sealant discovered flange itself is warped all to heck. One of the screws was driven thru flange, wont come out, to 'fix' 2 drywall screws were used. Toilets bolt boss is setting on them. Then noticed screw in front at quite an angle-yep it also missed the wood. The right side, though no 'fixes', sets even higher at bolt. Went round an round finally resigning myself that a new flange needed. Unfortunately mine is glued in (some use a screw on to pipe flange). Looking on line for options decided a 4x3 that goes into pipe instead of over pipe would allow me to cut off old flange and reinstall easily.
Then I stumbled on this. WOW. I didn't know these were made. Slips inside of pipe and uses gasket. Simple, easier to install, makes servicing easy but also allows movement between shower floor/toilet and top of black tank. Slip Joint! So preceded to cut off old flange
Well there's the problem. Hole off center, screws on left missed wood. Right side, screws were seriously over tightened, probably trying to keep toilet from rocking due to left side 'fix'. Two middle screws mushroomed the wood and fiberglass raising flange at bolt almost 3/16\". 2 outer ones pulling flange back down that warped it. (Opps click save and hit post)
New flange set in pipe without gasket. Though I see a tube of sealant because wet bath this is sure a life saver. (NOT changing out toilet past point of return...) Going to glue and screw a backer block on left side of hole even though drilling pilot I can get into wood. Sand down raised right side, flange will be flat... Awaiting toilet to arrive to 'start' working on it.