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Ralph_Cramden
Sep 23, 2018Explorer II
Jay Coe wrote:Ralph Cramden wrote:Ron3rd wrote:Jay Coe wrote:
Doc fee is BS also. That's part of the dealer's cost of doing business like heat, electric and insurance on his building. Title and registration are the only legitimate documentation fees for a buyer.
I agree doc fee is BS.
At a lot of dealerships the person doing the finance and registration work is essentially a contractor and is paid by the number of transactions. That amount is included in the doc fee over and above the actual fees related to financing and gubmint. B&M till your head explodes but if a dealer has no separate line item shown as a doc fee you're still paying it just the same. I can guarantee no dealer anywhere is footing the bill for doc fees or anything else, the buyer is.
Well of course they are. Just like their utilities, insurance and the wage they pay the janitor. What I'm saying is they need to cover these expenses with the profits they earn, not tag it on to a sale. Those profits are the TOTAL the dealership makes off all their business, not just sales of units. Service, parts, whatever makes them money needs to cover that "business expense". It's overhead.
Which is exactly why one needs to look at the total out the door price, or if trading look at the "difference", when shopping price between dealers. Not at the individual line items on the sales order. Everything is overhead including the trailer before you sign the agreement.
Getting worked up because they have $300 listed as a doc fee on a separate line somewhere is senseless just the same as getting all pumped up because a dealer says no doc fee and does not list it. You're still the one paying it because nobody is doing it gratis.
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