RV show yesterday almost NO Hybrids

i travel around usually to 3 state parks (1 or 2 or more times each), 6 different commercial, and several off the grid per year . The small bh htt is good for romping around year round and giving the kids something to cherish. Weekend camping is a costly endeavor with long commute, additional vehicle, added site fees, and difficult work schedule.

PAThwacker wrote:
hahaha, my next camper will be a stick and tin bunkhouse. I care more about wards and water storage than bleeping tents. I'd get a heavy duty hybrid 6000lb empty 8000lb gvw if it was produced: 26ft bh htt/superslide, big tanks, with standard dinette.


I currently reserve a day earlier get home at 7pm on Thursday ,and tow the camper solo (8pm to state parks). I set it up, make beds, fill water, and return home by midnight. Bought a dedicated 3/4 ton sub to be loaded, ready, and able to handle multipe future TT. I moor a canoe at a state park, and earlier in the week rack up sub with bikes, tanks, roof pods, firewood, and tools.

Friday: repeat cycle (gone 6am to 7pm) wife fills cooler, feeds kids, bath and kids in pj.

Family treks stress free (ipad/dvd players) to fully setup TT, either with me or, earlier in the day.


That ought to scare someone from attempting weekend camping, or buying a popup lol.

Have you considered renting a seasonal campground site that way you can leave your camper there? We did that for one season, was convenient however I have to admit it did get boring going to the same place.

hahaha, my next camper will be a stick and tin bunkhouse. I care more about wards and water storage than bleeping tents. I'd get a heavy duty hybrid 6000lb empty 8000lb gvw if it was produced: 26ft bh htt/superslide, big tanks, with standard dinette.


I currently reserve a day earlier get home at 7pm on Thursday ,and tow the camper solo (8pm to state parks). I set it up, make beds, fill water, and return home by midnight. Bought a dedicated 3/4 ton sub to be loaded, ready, and able to handle multipe future TT. I moor a canoe at a state park, and earlier in the week rack up sub with bikes, tanks, roof pods, firewood, and tools.

Friday: repeat cycle (gone 6am to 7pm) wife fills cooler, feeds kids, bath and kids in pj.

Family treks stress free (ipad/dvd players) to fully setup TT, either with me or, earlier in the day.


That ought to scare someone from attempting weekend camping, or buying a popup lol.

When I'm not actually camping. I HATE my Kodiak 214. I have had tons of problems with it from day 1 and spent a lot of money to repair it and drag it from shop to shop (hundreds of miles) only to be told they can not repair my water damaged floor.

last season we put a new bunk door on for about $2000.00 after all the BS involved.

BUT I love the fresh air and huge slide out so what am I gonna do?

In 2006 when I started to reseach campers (never owned a tent or PUP) I came to RV.net and one thing that caught my curiosity is how so many people sell, trade in, trade up after only 3-5 years.

I wanted mine to last 10 years because at the time my kids were 3 & 4.

After 5 years I had a dealer/repair shop tell me...and I quote.

"YOU SHOULD TORCH IT AND COLLECT THE INSURANCE MONEY"

So I love camping and would probably buy another HTT but this time only expect it to last 5 years :(

Now I know "Ultra Lite" really means ultra cheap materials were used ;)

I apologize Mr. Thwacker. Just seems as though you never have much good to say about HTT's.
We love ours, of course there are only the two of us and weight capacity is not a problem.
Maybe I am wrong, but I assume that even the raw tire kicker knows that purported sleeping capacity is nothing but a marketers sick fantasy.
We have a Jayco 23b. Would I have picked it? Maybe not but the Missus wanted the counter space that any other model we looked at couldn't come close to.

As I said in an earlier post,I have never found the low clearance to be a problem. I have dragged ours across dead furrows while boondocking, down some roads that actually goat paths that have a sign on them, without incident.

We have been totally satisfied with our Jayco. Fit and finish are great and have had zero issues to this point.

Haha, peel those kids off, close it up, toss the clothes back on. PITA, stick with big tent, and the 15 passenger van. BTW, no sofa in our model. Dirty clothes go onto the top bed, taking up valuable sleeping space. Red headed step children sleep in the back of the sub.

clothes? that's what the sofa is for LOL

Haha, yup, owners like us that give the truth to unsuspecting buyers. I laugh out load when a family sized six to 8 think they can camp in just about anything. The world does not cater to large families whether tow vehicles or number of beds. Sure it says sleeps 8 to 10 but where in the heck would you fit the clothes, dirty clothes, food, towels, whatever. Don't get me started on mass bottom feeders of society, I deal with that at the grocery aisles.

My 8 sleeper Kodiak 214 is good for 2 kids and 2 adults and that's ALL :)

I give true reasons to newbie that think they can slam 8 people in half ton subs and attempt to pull 6400lb campers. I laugh at how marketing sleeping for 10 yet unable to store food or clothes for an army larger than 4. Oh well, a 40 year old camping veteran that has done and seen at all since 1978.