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crcr
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Dec 23, 2013

Seeking Advice re Purchase of Used Tow Vehicle

Hi, We’re shopping for a used truck for a tow vehicle & second vehicle. We have a used TT in mind to purchase after we buy the truck -- a Jayco 256rks (apparently last year of production was the 2012) --a 28’ TT, dry tongue weight of 680, dry weight of 5690, GVWR of 7500. So of course we are are being realistic and plan on 7000 to 7500 lbs loaded for camping.

We want a crew cab, short bed, 4WD, gas. I would like factory tow package with related differential gearing & HD cooling (we live in the desert), The truck won’t get very many miles put on it per year, so a bit older is fine, but it must be in well maintained condition because of the extreme hot climate we live in, and towing duty in this climate. We would like to keep the purchase cost in the budget range of $8,000 - $12,500 if at all possible.

With so many on this forum who have so much experience towing and with trucks, I would like a bit of information and advice for those who wish to share. I’m wondering how and where do I find the factory specs for used trucks? Specifically, I will want to know what ratio rear end, whether it has OEM tow package, an upgraded transmission cooler, and/or a larger optional radiator, and payload. Do I have to take the VIN# and run it somewhere to find out how it was factory equipped? Should all trucks have the yellow sticker with payload, etc., and where is it usually located? If the yellow sticker is missing, how does one find out payload?

We prefer half ton if we can find one that has adequate specs for our needs, though we would consider a ¾ ton if it is deemed necessary. I have owned a Ford van with a V10, and know the quality of that engine, but would rather get by with a V8 if possible, due to the difference in gas mileage.

I want to avoid any engine or make with a history of cooling problems, again due to our climate.. I would be interested in engine recommendations. I would like a used Ecoboost F150, but those debuted in 2011 so are still out of my price range. It seems like I have read that the Ford 5.4 V8 is not that powerful of a tow engine -- is that correct or no? How is the Chevy 5.3? I’m not averse to the Ram with a 5.7 V8, but one thing I don’t like about the Ram is that the crew cab is not as spacious as we would like, and the Mega Cab seems to bring quite a premium, plus I don’t much care for the looks of the Mega Cab model. However, the Ram is still a consideration. We’d be interested in a Toyota Tundra if it had the necessary payload, but the resale on those probably put them well out of our price range.

For payload purposes, when we go camping, myself and the wife weigh 300 lbs combined, plus a 65 lb dog, plus the typical camping equipment we would put in the bed of the truck. I would of course use a weight distribution hitch, and would like to move the two 6V batteries I have on our present TT, to the Jayco 28’ TT. The battery box I have for the two 6V batteries is thick heavy duty plastic, so not much weight added there, but obviously the two 6V batteries add weight over one 12V battery -- I’m going to say add 100 lbs to the tongue for the battery switch out.

If any of you can shed light on my questions about a truck selection, and/or how to get the real OEM specs on used trucks, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

27 Replies

  • crcr wrote:
    We want a crew cab, short bed, 4WD, gas. I would like factory tow package with related differential gearing & HD cooling (we live in the desert), The truck won’t get very many miles put on it per year, so a bit older is fine, but it must be in well maintained condition because of the extreme hot climate we live in, and towing duty in this climate. We would like to keep the purchase cost in the budget range of $8,000 - $12,500 if at all possible.


    ...would rather get by with a V8 if possible, due to the difference in gas mileage.


    There isn't any towing. Get a 3/4 ton. V10 or GM's 8.1L are perfect for you. All the towing power you want, stable chassis for towing.
  • If I were looking for something to haul a 6,000 lb load it would be a Toyota Tundra with the crew cab. Nothing worse than having a tow vehicle break down while you have a trailer in tow. It complicates things immensely and spoils the trip. I have put many hundreds of thousands of miles on trucks and only the Toyota trucks were 100% trouble free and only needed the recommended maintenance be done.

    With any 1/2 ton you get a truck frame and that is quite different than the majority of SUV's that have bodies placed over a car platform. A 3/4 ton truck would be a good choice if your tow load was going to be over 10,000 lbs but it is not and would be a waste of money and provide a much harsher ride for you and your passengers.

    The brakes on the Toyota trucks have always been the best with no skimping. With any truck I would want to verify that there were disc brakes on all four wheels. To make the assumption that a Ford F-250 has better brakes than a Toyota Tundra would be foolish. Or to even assume that all F-250's have been trouble free in all the other areas that are important for towing including the transmissions and coolant system and brake controller and electrics, etc.

    For used trucks the Consumer Reports surveys of thousands of truck owners that is done every year provides good information on the likelihood of repairs and the weak points for various model years. A 2001-2003 model may have cooling system problems that were correct in 2004 and later models and I would want to know this and buy a 2004 or newer truck.

    A very common mistake made is to relate one owner's experiences with a single truck or car and extrapolate to the universe of cars and trucks by that manufacturer. Good or bad the information can be misleading.
  • If I were looking for something to haul a 6,000 lb load it would be a Toyota Tundra with the crew cab. Nothing worse than having a tow vehicle break down while you have a trailer in tow. It complicates things immensely and spoils the trip. I have put many hundreds of thousands of miles on trucks and only the Toyota trucks were 100% trouble free and only needed the recommended maintenance be done.

    With any 1/2 ton you get a truck frame and that is quite different than the majority of SUV's that have bodies placed over a car platform. A 3/4 ton truck would be a good choice if your tow load was going to be over 10,000 lbs but it is not and would be a waste of money and provide a much harsher ride for you and your passengers.

    The brakes on the Toyota trucks have always been the best with no skimping. With any truck I would want to verify that there were disc brakes on all four wheels. To make the assumption that a Ford F-250 has better brakes than a Toyota Tundra would be foolish. Or to even assume that all F-250's have been trouble free in all the other areas that are important for towing including the transmissions and coolant system and brake controller and electrics, etc.

    For used trucks the Consumer Reports surveys of thousands of truck owners that is done every year provides good information on the likelihood of repairs and the weak points for various model years. A 2001-2003 model may have cooling system problems that were correct in 2004 and later models and I would want to know this and buy a 2004 or newer truck.

    A very common mistake made is to relate one owner's experiences with a single truck or car and extrapolate to the universe of cars and trucks by that manufacturer. Good or bad the information can be misleading.
  • Engineer9860 wrote:
    donn0128 wrote:
    If you are hauling more than two people and a TT get a 3/4 ton. Much more stable platform, much stronger brakes, frames, tires, wheels etc. not to mention better resale value


    +1.

    I'll add that any of the V-8s in the 2500HD series trucks will be plenty for your trailer.


    +1 again. 2500HD, towing package, V8.
  • donn0128 wrote:
    If you are hauling more than two people and a TT get a 3/4 ton. Much more stable platform, much stronger brakes, frames, tires, wheels etc. not to mention better resale value


    +1.

    I'll add that any of the V-8s in the 2500HD series trucks will be plenty for your trailer.
  • Don't overlook Nissan Titan. I bought an 07 used at 28 k miles in 2010. Just south of 100k now, the majority being towing a 34' Rockwood. Factory "Big Tow" package has trans cooler with guage, 410 rear end. Never got even close to overheating. 9400# tow capacity. Traveled all over country, FL,DC, SD, CO, AZ. Last trip averaged 9.3 mpg (scan guage). Crew cab with back 'suicide doors ' still allows full size bed, big enough to carry my Suzuki GZ250, ramp, a couple of bicycles and cargo box.
  • If you are hauling more than two people and a TT get a 3/4 ton. Much more stable platform, much stronger brakes, frames, tires, wheels etc. not to mention better resale value