Spoon, the discussion was settled over four hours ago. Please tell me which one of my comments was "a bit out of line". No one here should be worried about expressing their own opinions. I was trying to stay reasonable without loosely throwing insults like some here do too often. Those are the ones that need to act like adults. You loved your Tundra but have outgrown it. I get it. I got that in your OP. You've moved up to a diesel. Congrats to you. When the irrational members start throwing insults, the forum loses its value. Godspeed.