Space Heater

Lantley wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

Naio wrote:
If the people who are using 30 amps + 15 amps are supposed to pay more, does that mean I get a discount for my van that only has a 15 amp service?

I also don't use the sewer dump, the cable TV, and usually don't use the water hose. Do I get a discount for all these things?

Again, out of context. If a park has seperate fees for 30 or 50 amp service, then one is not entitled to use more than that.
Itf there were enough people only using 15 amps then you would likely see a lower fee for that use.

Yes but if you think those running space heaters are committing theft Do you believe those using only 15 amps are entitled to refunds?I never said that spce heater use was theft. So long as you do not exceed the service you are paying for.... It is fine
I imagine the CG sets their rate high enough to include those using space heaters, or those running 3 AC's etc.
If the CG rate is not high enough to cover these worst case/max.use scenarios, than the CG's need to increase their rates.

Actually yes, I do think they should be charged less.... Though I doubt, it would happen. The van people just are not a big enough part of the business to cater to.

I can not believe how many people get this concept of not using more than you pay for so confused.
Do you got to the grocery store, put some apples in a bag and eat some of them before checking out too?
I imagine the store charges enough to cover the theft????

Actually they do. What those that bend the rules to their likeing may not realize is that they are stealing from everyone.
The RV park and grocery store compensate for abuse/theft by raising prices for everyone. Your parents, best friend, your children, neighbors, The handicaped people, those struggling on social security, disabled vets, and everyone on this forum.... Even the ones you like. They all pay more because of this.

But hey, pat yourself on the back, as you got it for free.

Where your analogy is wrong is that you are comparing using unmetered electric to a finite purchase.
The CG knows that every RV'ers electric use will be different.
A van will likely use less than a 36' class A.
A casita will use less than a 36'TT yet they all pay the same 30 amp rate. The difference in actual cost at the end of the day is negligible. Some will use more some will use less but the CG will be covered.Nope. You are not totally reading what I have been saying. IF a campground charges more for 50 amp than 30 amp.... And you make some sort of effort to be able to draw MORE than 30 amps, when you are paying for 30 amps....That is theft. It matters not if your site is metered or not. TH CG owner has a right to expect that a 30 amp rig will use no more than 30 amps.
Several here have done mods, or talked about sneaking another cord to enable them to use more elec, than 30 amps. I have been consistent this entire thread on this... But so many seem not to understand it, or want to justify what they are doing as to make arguments leaving out the pertinent parts of my statements.... They are just trying to muddy the water so they can feel OK with using more than they are paying for. Or they have a reading comprehension problem.
A better example is take the high school football team to the all you can eat buffet and take the ballerina squad to the buffet. I'm sure the football team is going to eat a whole lot more, but is that theft? Of course not. The owner has calculated how much food the average user will heat and set a profitable price.
Sure my teenage son is going to eat 4 plate full, but there is a grandmother out there that will barely eat anything. There will be a few customers (football players) that you lose on and a few (grandmothers) that you win on. Overall the price is set to ensure profit.

For every space heater electric hog, there is a van using 15 amp or a tent on a 30 amp site using minimal electric.
CG's know that over the course of a short term stay they can estimate the usage apply a rate plus some and not worry about electric use.
Do you really think CG owners are just gullible and are letting campers steal their electric as you imply?
Now for longer stays and seasonal sites you often see metered electric because over a longer stay it becomes harder to estimate usage.
The CG's understand what they are doing. Those that feel campers are taking advantage enact no heater rules. Mc fxost CG's it's easier to just raise the daily rate to cover the cost of electric. Than to
There will always be a variable associated with electric usage, a heat wave or a cold spell will have an impact, the types of RV's renting sites will have an impact.
RV appliance use will have a minimal impact. Do we need to charge more for multi battery RV's? How about those with Ice makers. Do we get into residential fridges.Electric water heaters vs.lp.
What is the base electric usage? Without meters the CG doesn't really know. But more importantly they don't really care. They set a profitable rate and don't worry about it.
Maybe they should hire "space heater police" to weed out the thieves.