Thanks everyone. We have a family of 7, all big but one. Two are drivers, the rest have special needs. So, in theory two can drive separately but, we would really love a 7 seater with adult sized seats. Hence, the VW Atlas that had awesome adult sized 7 seats or the Subaru Ascent that had 7/8 ok adult seats. Unfortunately the Pilot and Highlander wouldn't fit our family at all and in that case that we had to drive separately anyway we would just do a 5 seater. We liked the Rav4 Adventure and Toyota reliability so threw that in there. We kept hearing however that Rav 4 adventure, although rated at 3500 LBS, didn't come with a factory hitch and people didn't think it could actually do that weight. We would have big people in it, not a ton of gear but big people. The Scamp was 1200 or 1300 superlight. Mostly would be used for a little extra gear room and kids would have tents next to it. It's a two person with no bathroom. We wouldn't be getting near top weight but, that was part of our concern. We don't want to be towing anywhere near max or really wearing out our new family car. But, we do have a lot of hills and snow. I really wish the Highlander didn't have a rear seat only made for little people. We love the other big toyotas too but, start to get into much more money/gas mileage.
