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Keikoas_Mom
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Oct 10, 2015

Taking out a wall~ and putting up a room divider~

I sold my TT 2 years ago, because the floor plan just didn't work out.

We had a 2006 Zeppelin with the fold-up bed and bunks in the back. I had thought the bunks would work for our bird cages. We take a minimum of
3 parrots when we travel.

But after we knew our birds better, we realized they would hate the bunk area. Parrots need to be part of the family.

Anyway, I am looking for another TT, and some with bunks would work if we could remove the wall between the bunks and the main area.
Of course, we would still have to fasten the bunks to something. I am thinking an open support of some kind?
On the order of a room divider?

I remember seeing a TT that someone stripped out and rebuilt, and the supports inside the walls are aluminum, right?

Anyway, it is a thought, but I want a plan in place before I
tackle my husband with this.Thank you in advance for any suggestions!
  • Aluminum in the interior wall of a Zeppelin is unlikely. It is most likely paneling stapled and/or glued to wooden studs, probably 1x1 or 1x2 to provide a 1-inch hollow wall. These are usually fastened to outer wall, floor and ceiling to serve as a bulkhead and contribute to the rigidity of the assembled box that is the trailer.

    RV construction varies greatly with type and model. Keystone used foam core panel walls for the Zeppelin, with aluminum tubing forming a perimeter frame and a few verticals, to stiffen the finished panel. I don't remember the rest of the details, no longer have those brochures, but know this model is priced way below what it costs to build with full aluminum framing (as used by Excel, Carriage, New Horizons).
  • DutchmenSport wrote:
    We purchased our 2006 Keystone Springdale new. Traded it a couple years ago. One feature that attracted us to this camper was because of the open bunks in the back of the camper. We no longer had kids, but we wanted the bunks for storage... more specifically for our 3 birds, rabbit, chicken, and cat. The cat loved laying beside the bird cages and just dreaming of lunch!

    Here's some photos. I'm sure if you search around you may find something similar to this:







    No slides though:

    FYI: This is our back yard.




    OMG, this is perfect! Yes, I will keep searching, open bunks would be best case, and particularly because my husband is not "handy".
    Never worked in construction. He amazes himself when he builds something, but has an irrational fear of destroying trailer, house, etc., lol!
    If I have it all planned out, he does fine.
    He and our son recently built a small rocket stove and it was a major undertaking. Turned out nicely, though!

    BTW, love your siggy. "Life Support Quote" haha!
  • Ahh, my bad, I did not fully explain.

    When I said "room divider", I was picturing something along the lines of wrought iron or something open. My mother had a lovely
    buffet table (like a china cabinet but finished on both sides and open
    shelves) and it was also called a room divider for making different areas of a large room.

    http://www.hayneedle.com/stylists/the-foundary_1/styleboards/artful-display_38

    In this case, I need it attached, obviously, and strong enough to attach the bunks to, or at the very least, the lower bunk.
    Or maybe we will just take the large cages with us and attach them
    to the walls and floor like HankMacaw did.

    Plus, I don't want to spend $400-$800 on it....

    No, a Toy Hauler is practically what we had, in essence, the problem being that I don't want the birds to feel separated from us.
    Happy parrots are part of the family. Maybe it is the size. We have Amazons, Cockatoos and a Macaw.
    If they were Love Bird size or Cockatiel size, they might be fine
    with their own room.

    Is it hard to take out walls? Are the panels just screwed to the struts? (Or whatever the aluminum pieces are called that are in place of 2X4s?)

    Thank you for the help!
  • We purchased our 2006 Keystone Springdale new. Traded it a couple years ago. One feature that attracted us to this camper was because of the open bunks in the back of the camper. We no longer had kids, but we wanted the bunks for storage... more specifically for our 3 birds, rabbit, chicken, and cat. The cat loved laying beside the bird cages and just dreaming of lunch!

    Here's some photos. I'm sure if you search around you may find something similar to this:







    No slides though:

    FYI: This is our back yard.

  • Get a toy hauler - problem solved. Many people that travel with birds have toy haulers.
  • Isn't that what a wall is? A room divider? Just seems odd to remove a wall to put up a wall.