What are the extra 18 or 20 inches between the dinette and the fridge/kitchen counter used for?
Sleepy
Hi Sleepy:
I always enjoy your posts and your quick wit, and dry sense of humor. I've followed in your footsteps on some of your mods as well including bracing the 1161 slide, and your AM Solar install on my new camper luggage rack. My next project this fall will be the Platinum Cat.
Regarding the 18-20 inches of space, the new slide and dinette is much deeper / bigger than the old one. Big Slide = Big Dinette = Big Bed = loss of use while the slide is in. I believe the dinette makes into a 58x78 inch bed, so close to queen. For us, that's a blessing and a curse. We have an 11 year old daughter and she had outgrown the dinette as a bed, let alone being able to take a friend along. That's the only reason we traded the 2004 1161 in for the 2014 1191. We got the rear tent option as well. On the blessing side, the floorspace is huge, and the dinette is huge. Including the tent, it has 3 queen beds plus the drop down bunk over the dinette. We've had it out 14 times since January including 10 days in the Ouray Colorado area, and this past weekend in Flagstaff AZ.
On the downside, it can't be used with the slide in, and even more important to me is all the storage that has been lost. The two cabinets in the nose are gone. The cabinet by the bed next to the dinette is gone. The big cabinet and small cubby between the bathroom and the dinette is gone (hence the bigger slide / dinette). With the tent option, all the drawers and cabinets across the back are gone. There is some additional netted storage above and below the tent entrance, but nowhere close to break-even. Also, we lost the two side windows on the dinette, though I just read that we could have ordered it with them, and Lance will retro-fit them if I bring it to the factory. Hmmm.
So it's a blessing / curse, though we really do like the camper for my daughter and her friends. If my daughter was grown and it were just my wife and I the 1161 was a much better fit.
Steve