Tesla Cybertruck

Bedlam wrote:
Because some people's work day does not allow for overnight trickle charging between discharges?

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Overnight trickle charging (level one 120 volt) is adequate for commuters. But farm use of an F150 type cyber truck would be better suited to using the supplied EVSE (HPWC) or a clipper creek 80 amp 240 EVSE unit etc. This is assuming the farm has power of course. Probably considerably cheaper than having fuel delivered to the farm. My guess Tesla will either have the 72 amp single or dual 40 amp chargers from the model S in the cybertruck.

fj12ryder wrote:

Reisender wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.

I don’t see a “real pickup” as having anywhere near the facility as the cybertruck is projected to have with the exception of a “real pickup” being able to tow a fifth wheel or if you need a long box. But different people need pickups to do different things so there will be a market for the old stuff for a while yet. Fifth wheels are not near as common as they used to be with their biggest audience still being old boomers. That market will continually decline over the next ten years.

Interesting that the RV market seems to be booming while you're asserting that it's doing the opposite. Unlikely that both can be happening. And you're merely reflecting wishful thinking I'm afraid.

And a "real pickup" has a bed separate from the cab so it can flex and not damage the structural integrity of the vehicle. With no such flexibility, the Tesla truck would be susceptible to damage if loaded with an unequal heavy load. As I said, grocery getters and soccer moms won't be bothered with that issue. There actually are reasons behind some design parameters. Ever watch the movement between the bed and cab when there is a serious load in the truck bed? Just because you wish it so, doesn't make it so.

I have no idea what the industry is going. But large fifth wheels are a small part of the RV industry where we live. No idea anywhere else. Most people want to go weekend camping at the local lakes where we live. Most common truck is an F150 or equivalent.

fj12ryder wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.

Seriously, have you seen the specs and capabilities of Cybertruck compared side-by-side with El Camino?

By your logic, would not that mean that the F150s, Rams, etc. that never gets deployed on a work job or farm are also not "real pick up"?

Seriously have you seen the "Cybertruck" perform side-by-side with an El Camino? When you have please report back. Paper figures are just that, and anybody can put anything on paper.

Seriously, when did you see that paper figures, almost always conservative, did not hold or even exceeded by actual performance?

wilber1 wrote:

p220sigman wrote:
Might be wrong, but I think the Ridgeline still has an in-bed box.

The 2020 has a conventional bed with a gap between cab and bed just like other pickups.

Ok. I haven't see a 2020 yet, but everything I have read said no significant changes. It will be interesting if they move to a conventional bed since the people I know that own one really like the in-bed storage.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.

Seriously, have you seen the specs and capabilities of Cybertruck compared side-by-side with El Camino?

By your logic, would not that mean that the F150s, Rams, etc. that never gets deployed on a work job or farm are also not "real pick up"?

Seriously have you seen the "Cybertruck" perform side-by-side with an El Camino? When you have please report back. Paper figures are just that, and anybody can put anything on paper.

Reisender wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.

I don’t see a “real pickup” as having anywhere near the facility as the cybertruck is projected to have with the exception of a “real pickup” being able to tow a fifth wheel or if you need a long box. But different people need pickups to do different things so there will be a market for the old stuff for a while yet. Fifth wheels are not near as common as they used to be with their biggest audience still being old boomers. That market will continually decline over the next ten years.

Interesting that the RV market seems to be booming while you're asserting that it's doing the opposite. Unlikely that both can be happening. And you're merely reflecting wishful thinking I'm afraid.

And a "real pickup" has a bed separate from the cab so it can flex and not damage the structural integrity of the vehicle. With no such flexibility, the Tesla truck would be susceptible to damage if loaded with an unequal heavy load. As I said, grocery getters and soccer moms won't be bothered with that issue. There actually are reasons behind some design parameters. Ever watch the movement between the bed and cab when there is a serious load in the truck bed? Just because you wish it so, doesn't make it so.

For us RVers, what I'm waiting for are megachargers and Tesla configuring their charging stations as pull throughs for semi and cybertrucks pulling trailers.

And if there are mega-chargers, would that make unnecessary their plans on quick battery exchange (10 minutes in their estimation at $50 a pop).

Reisender wrote:
I don’t follow. Why would one install a Supercharger at home.

This is not really happening. Common thought for those that have never driven an EV.

fj12ryder wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at what amounts to an El Camino or Ranchero, not a real pickup. Many people use their pickups as strictly grocery getters or transportation, not hauling anything much at all.

Seriously, have you seen the specs and capabilities of Cybertruck compared side-by-side with El Camino?

By your logic, would not that mean that the F150s, Rams, etc. that never gets deployed on a work job or farm are also not "real pick up"?

Because some people's work day does not allow for overnight trickle charging between discharges?