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- wilber1ExplorerIt has some interesting ideas but I just can’t see myself putting a load of sand or gravel in the back of that thing.
rjstractor wrote:
Reisander wrote:
Hard to say. But if it follows the model x range reduction rate of 35 to 50 percent that will still leave a 250 mile or 400 km range. My 2500 GMC could barely go 200 miles or 300 kilometers. Not that we need a truck but it would work work for us.
If the towing range reduction were in line with gas or diesel TVs (30-50%) the EVs would work great. But real world testing has showed that the Model X range is reduced to less than 1/3 of it's non-towing range. When TFL tested a Model X pulling a 4500 lb horse trailer, they could barely complete a 75 mile trip on a charge. The car consumed up to 3.8 times as much power towing as not towing. I'd expect similar results with the pickup.
Hard to say. But it will be interesting to watch. no one knows what the 500 plus mile range means. We'll have to wait until the first ones make it to the street. 2 years...or more.- Yosemite_Sam1Explorer
Reisander wrote:
Hard to say. But if it follows the model x range reduction rate of 35 to 50 percent that will still leave a 250 mile or 400 km range. My 2500 GMC could barely go 200 miles or 300 kilometers. Not that we need a truck but it would work work for us.
If the towing range reduction were in line with gas or diesel TVs (30-50%) the EVs would work great. But real world testing has showed that the Model X range is reduced to less than 1/3 of it's non-towing range. When TFL tested a Model X pulling a 4500 lb horse trailer, they could barely complete a 75 mile trip on a charge. The car consumed up to 3.8 times as much power towing as not towing. I'd expect similar results with the pickup.rjstractor wrote:
Reisender wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Chris Bryant wrote:
Apologies if this has been said, but a couple of points about the cybertruck- at a base of just under $40k, it will be the cheapest available. The reason for the cheap price? Assembly uses no stamping presses or paint booths- the body is laser cut and folded, the stainless alloy being to hard to stamp..
Agree. Or it could be Tesla's loss-leader for a smooth entry into the truck-pick up segment.
For those who would get limited use out of a truck the Cybertruck has huge functionality. Short of pulling a fifth wheel it literally shames the standard pickup half ton. We are sedan / hatchback people. But the Cybertruck is appealing to us. The wife would love one.
The only aspect it falls short on IMO is towing range, if real world towing range mirrors that of the Model X. Driving for 90 minutes and then charging for 45 minutes won't appeal to most RVers. But as battery tech and charging infrastructure improve those issues will sort themselves out.
Hard to say. But if it follows the model x range reduction rate of 35 to 50 percent that will still leave a 250 mile or 400 km range. My 2500 GMC could barely go 200 miles or 300 kilometers. Not that we need a truck but it would work work for us.Reisender wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Chris Bryant wrote:
Apologies if this has been said, but a couple of points about the cybertruck- at a base of just under $40k, it will be the cheapest available. The reason for the cheap price? Assembly uses no stamping presses or paint booths- the body is laser cut and folded, the stainless alloy being to hard to stamp..
Agree. Or it could be Tesla's loss-leader for a smooth entry into the truck-pick up segment.
For those who would get limited use out of a truck the Cybertruck has huge functionality. Short of pulling a fifth wheel it literally shames the standard pickup half ton. We are sedan / hatchback people. But the Cybertruck is appealing to us. The wife would love one.
The only aspect it falls short on IMO is towing range, if real world towing range mirrors that of the Model X. Driving for 90 minutes and then charging for 45 minutes won't appeal to most RVers. But as battery tech and charging infrastructure improve those issues will sort themselves out.- BenKExplorerStainless "sheetmetal" has been stamped in the past and will continue to be into the future
At 3mm thick, almost 10 gauge or almost "plate", which can also be stamped....AT GREAT tooling cost....something Tusk has in the past not understand hard vs soft tooling
Pure marketing hype...much like "military grade aluminum"...which has soooooooo many think some kind of whizzy-bang exotic metal...which has many household things made of that same military grade aluminum - Yosemite_Sam1Explorer
Reisender wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Chris Bryant wrote:
Apologies if this has been said, but a couple of points about the cybertruck- at a base of just under $40k, it will be the cheapest available. The reason for the cheap price? Assembly uses no stamping presses or paint booths- the body is laser cut and folded, the stainless alloy being to hard to stamp..
Agree. Or it could be Tesla's loss-leader for a smooth entry into the truck-pick up segment.
For those who would get limited use out of a truck the Cybertruck has huge functionality. Short of pulling a fifth wheel it literally shames the standard pickup half ton. We are sedan / hatchback people. But the Cybertruck is appealing to us. The wife would love one.
The looks has not grown on me yet. But the functionally is top notch.
All my kids and wife love it. Even my son, who used to work for Tesla and became a hater for Elon Musk's slave driving management style. He was the one who asked me to a pledge of secrecy when he told me that they are reverse engineering an F150 in developing an electric pick up truck.
Hence, my added disappointment with the Cybertruck because I really like the looks of F150. Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Chris Bryant wrote:
Apologies if this has been said, but a couple of points about the cybertruck- at a base of just under $40k, it will be the cheapest available. The reason for the cheap price? Assembly uses no stamping presses or paint booths- the body is laser cut and folded, the stainless alloy being to hard to stamp..
Agree. Or it could be Tesla's loss-leader for a smooth entry into the truck-pick up segment.
For those who would get limited use out of a truck the Cybertruck has huge functionality. Short of pulling a fifth wheel it literally shames the standard pickup half ton. We are sedan / hatchback people. But the Cybertruck is appealing to us. The wife would love one.- Yosemite_Sam1Explorer
Chris Bryant wrote:
Apologies if this has been said, but a couple of points about the cybertruck- at a base of just under $40k, it will be the cheapest available. The reason for the cheap price? Assembly uses no stamping presses or paint booths- the body is laser cut and folded, the stainless alloy being to hard to stamp..
Agree. Or it could be Tesla's loss-leader for a smooth entry into the truck-pick up segment.
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