Tesla Launch of Pick-Up

ShinerBock wrote:

time2roll wrote:
Has not been driven but twice this year unfortunately. Should I sell it so someone can drive it every day?

When does the your Nikola One start production? Or is there another brand?

Nah, recycle it for metal and use that money to get a more efficient tow vehicle that emits less.

Nikola production starts in the next few years since they only recently started building their plant in Arizona. The one my company and PACCAR is helping test with Toyota may be even longer out or maybe not at all. I cannot say without seeing a factory being built first and other firm data since it would just be speculation otherwise.

In the mean time, my company can handle the diesel and CNG needs of the market. We even partnered with 3M to produce CNG fuel systems under our Momentum Fuel Technologies subsidiary.

Ok, you've covered all the problems, real or imagine.

So can I conclude this is not for you and you can move on?

Just kidding, I just can't help it.

time2roll wrote:
Has not been driven but twice this year unfortunately. Should I sell it so someone can drive it every day?

When does the your Nikola One start production? Or is there another brand?

Nah, recycle it for metal and use that money to get a more efficient tow vehicle that emits less.

Nikola production starts in the next few years since they only recently started building their plant in Arizona. The one my company and PACCAR is helping test with Toyota may be even longer out or maybe not at all. I cannot say without seeing a factory being built first and other firm data since it would just be speculation otherwise.

In the mean time, my company can handle the diesel and CNG needs of the market. We even partnered with 3M to produce CNG fuel systems under our Momentum Fuel Technologies subsidiary.

Has not been driven but twice this year unfortunately. Should I sell it so someone can drive it every day?

When does the your Nikola One start production? Or is there another brand?

time2roll wrote:
BTW it is 2 kWh per mile.

Yeah, and as stated by eve pro Tesla websites, this is likely on a flat surface without hills and hardly any load, because the math doesn't add up otherwise. That is like posting EPA numbers versus reality. Which one always ends up being less?

BTW, you replace that emissions spewing and dismal mpg 2001 of yours yet for a more modern towing vehicle that emits less pollution and is more efficient?

time2roll wrote:
Why wonder. Reserve your Semis and Tesla engineers from the energy division will set you up.

Nope, my money is with fuel cell.

time2roll wrote:
That is an odd assumption on large batteries because everything I read the larger the battery and longer the range is actually lower stress on the battery. Note Tesla give a longer battery warranty on the larger battery.

Usually it is the smaller battery that works harder.

Smaller batteries work harder? That is not how it works. They degrade by use, charging, size, and environment. These semis will use and need to charge that battery a heck of a lot more than these cars will.

time2roll wrote:
I also disagree the battery is not recyclable or rather reusable as a stationary battery were energy density is not as critical. There are even some batteries getting installed as RV house batteries.

Too much diesel exhaust.

Disagree? With what? I never said it wasn't recyclable or reusable. Geez, you two don't read my posts or what? I said that recycling them is currently nit economically feasible and if projected market share is reached, there will be too many to reuse.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


And there will be heavy rains in your area tomorrow brought by the dark clouds over your head, lol.

Let me update you with the discussion, just a few post below: it's now mega chargers (hopefully the new pick up launch can use too).

And batteries are now being recycled. That's why you get a credit of $20 (or get charged $20) for your dead ones even for your old fashioned traditional batteries.

Why would their be heavy rains? Just because I asked a valid question that a fleet manager would ask and need to know if he had a fleet of these trucks? Or is it just because you only want to hear positive things about Tesla and let everyone have participation trophy's?

I know they plan on having megachargers. If you would actually read my previous posts then you will see that I mentioned them several times. I was just commenting on the article where they needed five superchargers for one truck and wonder how many would be needed for a fleet, and how much energy.

You might want to recheck your stats for Li-on batteries, not Lead acid batteries. If sales go as projected and they don't find a economically viable way to recycle them soon, then we might have a battery landfill problem especially with the bigger semi batteries which will likely not last as long.

ShinerBock wrote:
Hmm, five superchargers to charge one truck. I wonder how many it would take to charge a fleet of 50 or 100 in a window of just 10 hours. Or how much energy will be needed. Or what will happen to these batteries after five to seven years(bigger EV batteries don't last as long) since it is currently not economically feasible to recycle Li-on without subsidies and there would be too many out there to re-use with the projected market share. I guess we can bury them somewhere in California.

Why wonder. Reserve your Semis and Tesla engineers from the energy division will set you up.

That is an odd assumption on large batteries because everything I read the larger the battery and longer the range is actually lower stress on the battery. Note Tesla give a longer battery warranty on the larger battery.

Usually it is the smaller battery that works harder.

I also disagree the battery is not recyclable or rather reusable as a stationary battery were energy density is not as critical. There are even some batteries getting installed as RV house batteries.

Too much diesel exhaust.

Repackage them as fire starter sticks?

ShinerBock wrote:
Hmm, five superchargers to charge one truck. I wonder how many it would take to charge a fleet of 50 or 100 in a window of just 10 hours. Or how much energy will be needed. Or what will happen to these batteries after five to seven years(bigger EV batteries don't last as long) since it is currently not economically feasible to recycle Li-on without subsidies and there would be too many out there to re-use with the projected market share. I guess we can bury them somewhere in California.

And there will be heavy rains in your area tomorrow brought by the dark clouds over your head, lol.

Let me update you with the discussion, just a few post below: it's now mega chargers (hopefully the new pick up launch can use too).

And batteries are now being recycled. That's why you get a credit of $20 (or get charged $20) for your dead ones even for your old fashioned traditional batteries.