Tesla pick up in 4th quarter 2019

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
And Tesla has the lowest defect rate even compared against the veteran car makers in Detroit besting the quality freak Toyota.

Do you have a cite for that data? Bonus points if it's JD Power.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

mich800 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Oh it can definetly be denied...and even called BS. The model S and X have been in production for years with hundreds of thousands of happy customers. The model 3 already has about 300 thousand on the road again with lots of happy customers and excellent ratings. But feel free to make stuff up. :)

Where did I say they have not produced vehicles? Re-read what I wrote. I will give you an example. Rear bumpers flying off Model 3's in the rain. Do you know how to fix that before production? Testing like the other manufactures do. But Tesla puts them in consumers hands and says, let us know what breaks and we will modify as we go.

Uh huh. And this kinda stuff never happens with any of the garbage that comes out of Detroit. Where would one even start.

And Tesla has the lowest defect rate even compared against the veteran car makers in Detroit besting the quality freak Toyota.

ROTFLMAO, Stop with the lies Elon!

Consumer Reports wrote:
Consumer Reports has announced that it is removing its coveted “recommended” rating for the Tesla Model 3 based on “declining reliability.” The publication said new “reliability data” on the Model 3 prompted the change.

You fan boi's crack me up!

Reisender wrote:

mich800 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Oh it can definetly be denied...and even called BS. The model S and X have been in production for years with hundreds of thousands of happy customers. The model 3 already has about 300 thousand on the road again with lots of happy customers and excellent ratings. But feel free to make stuff up. :)

Where did I say they have not produced vehicles? Re-read what I wrote. I will give you an example. Rear bumpers flying off Model 3's in the rain. Do you know how to fix that before production? Testing like the other manufactures do. But Tesla puts them in consumers hands and says, let us know what breaks and we will modify as we go.

Uh huh. And this kinda stuff never happens with any of the garbage that comes out of Detroit. Where would one even start.

And Tesla has the lowest defect rate even compared against the veteran car makers in Detroit besting the quality freak Toyota.

Reisender wrote:

mich800 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Oh it can definetly be denied...and even called BS. The model S and X have been in production for years with hundreds of thousands of happy customers. The model 3 already has about 300 thousand on the road again with lots of happy customers and excellent ratings. But feel free to make stuff up. :)

Where did I say they have not produced vehicles? Re-read what I wrote. I will give you an example. Rear bumpers flying off Model 3's in the rain. Do you know how to fix that before production? Testing like the other manufactures do. But Tesla puts them in consumers hands and says, let us know what breaks and we will modify as we go.

Uh huh. And this kinda stuff never happens with any of the garbage that comes out of Detroit. Where would one even start.

I understand you have no automotive experience and there is nothing wrong with that. Going from CAD to production simply leads to quality issues. Quality is not one of Tesla's strong suites. You can be a fan but don't let that skew your critical thinking. I like the vehicles. But I also recognize the issues they need to address if they want to be a manufacturer that can scale their operations without sacrificing quality.

mich800 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Oh it can definetly be denied...and even called BS. The model S and X have been in production for years with hundreds of thousands of happy customers. The model 3 already has about 300 thousand on the road again with lots of happy customers and excellent ratings. But feel free to make stuff up. :)

Where did I say they have not produced vehicles? Re-read what I wrote. I will give you an example. Rear bumpers flying off Model 3's in the rain. Do you know how to fix that before production? Testing like the other manufactures do. But Tesla puts them in consumers hands and says, let us know what breaks and we will modify as we go.

Uh huh. And this kinda stuff never happens with any of the garbage that comes out of Detroit. Where would one even start.

Reisender wrote:

Oh it can definetly be denied...and even called BS. The model S and X have been in production for years with hundreds of thousands of happy customers. The model 3 already has about 300 thousand on the road again with lots of happy customers and excellent ratings. But feel free to make stuff up. :)

Where did I say they have not produced vehicles? Re-read what I wrote. I will give you an example. Rear bumpers flying off Model 3's in the rain. Do you know how to fix that before production? Testing like the other manufactures do. But Tesla puts them in consumers hands and says, let us know what breaks and we will modify as we go.

mich800 wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

mich800 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Why does anyone even remotely think there will be a pickup by the end of the year? There's another thread running about the Tesla semi, and it started over a year and a half ago, and there's still no semi. Why would the pickup be any different?

It’s not. But some confuse shareholders meetings full of hyperbole and trying to appease the deep pockets everything will be ok with reality. Anyone remotely familiar with automotive manufacturing knows what it takes to bring a vehicle from a drawing to full scale production.

I think the prototype will be out but I suspect production closer to 2021. A lot will have to do with cell production. The model Y will take priority. They are able to produce enough batteries per day for about a 1200 cars. Which is roughly what they are producing and selling. It will continue to creep up slowly.

Trade magazines said Tesla has the fastest concept-to-market processes for car manufacturing.

They said, they’ve seen Model 3 jump from old fashioned manual assembly to robotics.

What they don’t understand is why they kept on just adding temporary garlic type temporary plants in Fremont when they have huge covered underutilized facility in Fremont. They are knocking down admin building reportedly for the semi or the pick up.

There is a big difference between concept to market when the the first consumer receives a legit final product. Not a work in progress beta tester. It cannot be denied Teala follows the later philosophy.

Oh it can definetly be denied...and even called BS. The model S and X have been in production for years with hundreds of thousands of happy customers. The model 3 already has about 300 thousand on the road again with lots of happy customers and excellent ratings. But feel free to make stuff up. :)

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

mich800 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Why does anyone even remotely think there will be a pickup by the end of the year? There's another thread running about the Tesla semi, and it started over a year and a half ago, and there's still no semi. Why would the pickup be any different?

It’s not. But some confuse shareholders meetings full of hyperbole and trying to appease the deep pockets everything will be ok with reality. Anyone remotely familiar with automotive manufacturing knows what it takes to bring a vehicle from a drawing to full scale production.

I think the prototype will be out but I suspect production closer to 2021. A lot will have to do with cell production. The model Y will take priority. They are able to produce enough batteries per day for about a 1200 cars. Which is roughly what they are producing and selling. It will continue to creep up slowly.

Trade magazines said Tesla has the fastest concept-to-market processes for car manufacturing.

They said, they’ve seen Model 3 jump from old fashioned manual assembly to robotics.

What they don’t understand is why they kept on just adding temporary garlic type temporary plants in Fremont when they have huge covered underutilized facility in Fremont. They are knocking down admin building reportedly for the semi or the pick up.

There is a big difference between concept to market when the the first consumer receives a legit final product. Not a work in progress beta tester. It cannot be denied Teala follows the later philosophy.

Reisender wrote:

mich800 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Why does anyone even remotely think there will be a pickup by the end of the year? There's another thread running about the Tesla semi, and it started over a year and a half ago, and there's still no semi. Why would the pickup be any different?

It’s not. But some confuse shareholders meetings full of hyperbole and trying to appease the deep pockets everything will be ok with reality. Anyone remotely familiar with automotive manufacturing knows what it takes to bring a vehicle from a drawing to full scale production.

I think the prototype will be out but I suspect production closer to 2021. A lot will have to do with cell production. The model Y will take priority. They are able to produce enough batteries per day for about a 1200 cars. Which is roughly what they are producing and selling. It will continue to creep up slowly.

Trade magazines said Tesla has the fastest concept-to-market processes for car manufacturing.

They said, they’ve seen Model 3 jump from old fashioned manual assembly to robotics.

What they don’t understand is why they kept on just adding temporary garlic type temporary plants in Fremont when they have huge covered underutilized facility in Fremont. They are knocking down admin building reportedly for the semi or the pick up.

thomasmnile wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

SidecarFlip wrote:
Gasoline is plummeting in case you haven't noticed. Cannot wait to see a Musk toaster with a bed on the back....

Curious. What does gas plummeting mean and why is it relevant to Tesla.

And it’s not even true!

I have not seen gas below $4/gal in the 3 states and Canada where I’ve just been to.

Traveling the wrong direction there Yosemite. Just filled the car 2 days ago down here, $2.45/gal. Haven't seen 4 buck/gal gas here since 2008. Even diesel is below $3.00/gal.

So what it is before the Iran crisis, 99 cents?

If it was $7 before and now $2.45, then that would be plummeting.