mich800 wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
How about I put it this way. I tow a 9500# TT. For my lifestyle I don't need a diesel anymore. My truck sits for weeks at a time. I would like about 50 more HP and 75 lbs more of TQ. That would be about perfect for my camping style. What I don't need to do is spend $10,495 for a diesel that's overkill for my situation.
I think you're missing the point of gas owners. Maybe I'm wrong but my guess is that most just want a decent amount of an HP/TQ increase and don't need the massive power output of a diesel at the cost of the option when it's not something thats being used enough to validate.
Why do one have to "need" the power of a diesel in their justification for it, but would turn around and buy a more powerful and expensive gas engine even though the base gas engine will do just fine? You don't need a 7.3L or an addition 50 hp or 754 lb-ft to pull a 9,500 lb trailer. Heck, you don't even need an SD to do that. But I bet you want it just like you want more power. No need to justify things by saying you don't need it if you end up buying something you don't need in the first place. You don't need a 9,500 lb RV, but I bet you spent more than what a diesel upgrade costs because you wanted one.
I just don't get why needs and recouping your money always comes up when talking about a diesel engine upgrade, but never does when talking about a gas engine upgrade.
The error in your analysis is the assumption wanting a gas engine is somehow mutually exclusive with wanting more power. We are making this far more complicated than it really is. Some people want an gas engine. Of this subset some also want more power.
I know there are many reasons for wanting a diesel or gas just as there are many reasons for not wanting a diesel or gas. I am just talking I about the irony of one (or actually two) of the most common reasons used which is not needing more power and the "recouping" any addition cost, and how it always gets brought up when justifying not getting a diesel yet the same person would turn around and spend more on a more powerful gas engine.
I never here gas half ton owners talk about the need to "recoup" money when they get the more powerful engine options over the base engines. I also never heard it from the Ram guys when they offered both the 5.7L and the 6.4L in the HD even though the 6.4L ended up costing a lot more in the long run due to the added maintenance cost and recommended 89 octane. I didn't here it once in this or any other 7.3L thread. Yet if this thread were about a diesel and has engine option in an HD, I bet all the money in my bank account that it would get brought up multiple times. Why is that especially if one puts pen to paper on total cost of ownership they most would likely come out ahead with a diesel depending on brand and regional prices? I just don't get why it is only a topic when discussing the diesel engine upgrade option and no other option like a a gas engine upgrade, trim upgrade, configuration upgrade, and so on.