The world of tow vehicles would be a better place if

valhalla360 wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
If F350/3500 SWR trucks were labeled F250/2500 and the 2500 series trucks were discontinued. A 3500 series truck should have duals.

How exactly does fewer options make the world a better place?

If you want a dually, buy a dually.

If you want a SRW 1 ton, buy one.

If you want a 3/4 ton, buy one.

This isn't 30yrs ago when you would have to go to each individual dealer and ask for the specs on various options when it came time to purchase. It's easy to get them on the internet.

If they discontinued the 1 ton SRW and included the overload spring on the 3/4 ton, people who want a 3/4 could still buy their 3/4 ton. Those who want to buy a SRW and have the ability to tow a fiver could still buy their SRW diesel.

JRscooby wrote:
The talk of picking engine to put in any brand off truck has been common in heavy trucks forever.
IMHO, a great improvement in TV market would be for the manufacturers to sell glider kit or complete trucks without engines, so a guy that spent all the money to buy a truck with half million mile engine can use the engine for it's lifespan. And to give you a reason I think this is good idea, I bought a '76 Pete with a 1693 Cat. Records on the engine showed that was the 3rd truck.

1) No manufacturer is going to purposely cut out a big part of the cost of a truck...including the associated profits.

2) The days of simple mechanical diesels are long gone. Over 20yrs (typical life of a truck), the technology is likely to be wildly different and limiting the chassie so it can plug and play with a 20yr old engine would be a huge hassle and likely to run up against emissions and other regulatory issues.

Then you have the PR issues when people take photos of the new 2022 Brand X truck broken down on the side of the road because someone mucked up the engine install.

Honestly, if you are OK with outdated technology, you can keep chassie and engine going for 40yrs...but after a point, it doesn't make much sense.

what was this all about? Call it whatever you want, is that going to change what it will haul or the performance? Good grief!!

Well then you may as well put an Eco Boost in it too! :R

The talk of picking engine to put in any brand off truck has been common in heavy trucks forever.
IMHO, a great improvement in TV market would be for the manufacturers to sell glider kit or complete trucks without engines, so a guy that spent all the money to buy a truck with half million mile engine can use the engine for it's lifespan. And to give you a reason I think this is good idea, I bought a '76 Pete with a 1693 Cat. Records on the engine showed that was the 3rd truck.

4x4ord wrote:
If F350/3500 SWR trucks were labeled F250/2500 and the 2500 series trucks were discontinued. A 3500 series truck should have duals.

How exactly does fewer options make the world a better place?

If you want a dually, buy a dually.

If you want a SRW 1 ton, buy one.

If you want a 3/4 ton, buy one.

This isn't 30yrs ago when you would have to go to each individual dealer and ask for the specs on various options when it came time to purchase. It's easy to get them on the internet.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
4x4ord said: "Or how about if you could get a Powerstroke under the hood of your Ram"

Must be a rough winter up there, you feeling alright???

Well, now that you mention it, I did come down with that cold thing that's been going around the past while... maybe I've got a bit of brain fog.

wanderingbob wrote:
Rather than drive a Powerstroke I would drink muddy water and sleep in a hollow log ! Can not beat a Cummins !!!

So tell us how you really feel about Found-On-Road-Dead aka Fix-Or-Repair-Daily.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
4x4ord said: "Or how about if you could get a Powerstroke under the hood of your Ram"

Must be a rough winter up there, you feeling alright???

wanderingbob wrote:
Rather than drive a Powerstroke I would drink muddy water and sleep in a hollow log ! Can not beat a Cummins !!!

I always thought Ford guys, wanted a Cummins engine and an Allison transmission, in their Ford.
When we bought our 2001 Dodge Ram CTD with 243,000 miles in 2011, it was still going strong, nicest body and interior of all we looked at. We drove it for the better part of eight years and sold it with 315,000 miles, still strong.

MFL wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
4x4ord said: "Or how about if you could get a Powerstroke under the hood of your Ram"

Must be a rough winter up there, you feeling alright???

4x4 was close, with his idea, but best would be Cummins engine in the Ford!

Advantages...better looking truck, much improved mirrors, best IBC, and of course MADE IN USA.

Jerry

There is a company that does just that, "Fummins". Yes then it would be a mostly Made in USA truck.