ElBesoBlanco wrote:
Pardon my misunderstanding, Mike. Your post was stating why pop ups weren't selling like they used to and you posted examples on trailer differences. Also you didn't state you meant tent trailer only.
To me, pop up is a pop up unless specifically stated hard side or tent trailer. Yes, my trailer is a pop up. I can't really describe any other way it sets up....unless someone in denial wants to call it a push up? LOL
What I thought your posting as examples of 'differences on what money can buy ie: trailer vs pop up' was you posting 'type specific price differences within the brand' - so only Jayco - no other brands were meant to be discussed in this thread. My apologies, my mistake.
Thank you for taking a moment to clarify.
My intent was to show why pop ups (tent based systems with a cable wench lift arm system and hard roofs) have not been selling as well. There have been several threads about the fact that pop ups and hybrids aren't selling as well as they have in the past. I have pointed to facts that Pop Ups have gone substantially up in price while traditional travel trailers have gone up little or stayed the same, being the same or less expensive as these tent based Pop Ups.
BTW, Palomino had a hardside pop up which had panels in place of the tent walls but retained the tent based bunks. Apache and Basecamp brands had hardsided pop ups that used hard panels instead of the tent material on the walls, and also used folding ABS panels for the bunkends. They were just like the tent based pop ups in look and function but used folding hard side panels.
The point as well, is that dollar for dollar, TTs are a better value with much better appliances and features whether you like Pop Ups better or not. The fact is that Pop ups use to be a stepping stone to a more expensive travel trailer. Even though I really like Pop Ups (wife hates them with a passion), I wouldn't buy one at the prices they are today because they are a poor value. Hense why I said I'd probably buy used if I could find a decent Pop Up (previously could not) or use the tents to go camping if storage became an issue.
Had nothing to do with saying Pop Ups or other folding campers are******and worthless. I like pop ups and would like to get another one but as it is now, wife wouldn't have one, and I don't want an RV lot in my yard. Previously had that as well. :)
