Time for a new Truck

Flashman wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Powerstroke/TorqueShift both medium duty and comes in all Super Duty configurations.... I have 91k miles on my 6.7 and not a single issue to date. Also I plan to keep my truck for the long haul and I have no concerns as well.

I agree with testing all brands and when looking at the window sticker look hard at what country that truck was assembled at. You might be surprised.

Good luck...

When did the rating go to medium duty? They didn't used to be MD.

Since Ford got tired of me noting the only Diesel that was available in the F650/750 was a Cummins 6.7 same as our RAM trucks they have decided to use their MADE IN MEXICO 6.7 PS instead. That is how they can claim their Diesel is MD. Question, what other applications are the 6.7PS used in that are MD? The cummins 6.7 is used in MANY MD applications.

Flashman wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Powerstroke/TorqueShift both medium duty and comes in all Super Duty configurations.... I have 91k miles on my 6.7 and not a single issue to date. Also I plan to keep my truck for the long haul and I have no concerns as well.

I agree with testing all brands and when looking at the window sticker look hard at what country that truck was assembled at. You might be surprised.

Good luck...

When did the rating go to medium duty? They didn't used to be MD.

They offer the 6.7 up to the Ford 750, so that would certainly qualify as medium duty.

FishOnOne wrote:
Powerstroke/TorqueShift both medium duty and comes in all Super Duty configurations.... I have 91k miles on my 6.7 and not a single issue to date. Also I plan to keep my truck for the long haul and I have no concerns as well.

I agree with testing all brands and when looking at the window sticker look hard at what country that truck was assembled at. You might be surprised.

Good luck...

When did the rating go to medium duty? They didn't used to be MD.

FishOnOne wrote:
I agree with testing all brands and when looking at the window sticker look hard at what country that truck was assembled at. You might be surprised.

You just cannot help yourself, can you?

spoon059 wrote:

Me Again wrote:
Drive all six! 2 times all three, one gas and one diesel and then YOU get to decide, not us!!!! Chris

Exactly my thoughts. They all make very good products right now and you can't go wrong no matter what you chose.

GM and Ford diesels had some concerns initially with the Bosch fuel injectors, but it sounds like they have been redesigned and are much better. Ram uses an older style fuel injector that is less prone to catastrophic failure. Any of them in the 2016 to 2017 model should work wonderfully for you.

Any of the gas engines are great. My friend has the Ram 6.4 and loves it pulling about 8500 lbs. My father-in-law has a Chevy 6.0 and loves it pulling about 8500 lbs. The Ford 6.2 is a tried and true engine and I've heard that Ford will offer a 6.8 in 2017 or 2018. Unless you are towing in the mountains often, any of those gas engines should pull your relatively small trailer with ease.

Whatever is most comfortable for you, reasonable for your budget and satisfactory to your eyes is the best choice. For me, that was the Ram.

Just FYI, the issue with ford and Chevy diesels is the fuel pump, the CP4. The Cummins uses the CP3 which if it were to fail(extremely rare), doesn't ruin the whole fuel system as the CP4 can.

The performance of any of the modern diesels is phenomenal, so I picked the one that was the most reliable and the easiest to work on, the Cummins Ram. They are all absolutely awesome towing machines, but that was a big part of my decision.

Powerstroke/TorqueShift both medium duty and comes in all Super Duty configurations.... I have 91k miles on my 6.7 and not a single issue to date. Also I plan to keep my truck for the long haul and I have no concerns as well.

I agree with testing all brands and when looking at the window sticker look hard at what country that truck was assembled at. You might be surprised.

Good luck...

Me Again wrote:
Drive all six! 2 times all three, one gas and one diesel and then YOU get to decide, not us!!!! Chris

Exactly my thoughts. They all make very good products right now and you can't go wrong no matter what you chose.

GM and Ford diesels had some concerns initially with the Bosch fuel injectors, but it sounds like they have been redesigned and are much better. Ram uses an older style fuel injector that is less prone to catastrophic failure. Any of them in the 2016 to 2017 model should work wonderfully for you.

Any of the gas engines are great. My friend has the Ram 6.4 and loves it pulling about 8500 lbs. My father-in-law has a Chevy 6.0 and loves it pulling about 8500 lbs. The Ford 6.2 is a tried and true engine and I've heard that Ford will offer a 6.8 in 2017 or 2018. Unless you are towing in the mountains often, any of those gas engines should pull your relatively small trailer with ease.

Whatever is most comfortable for you, reasonable for your budget and satisfactory to your eyes is the best choice. For me, that was the Ram.

I would go and look at all the trucks from each manufacturer. This way you can drive and determine which one you prefer. Each one does drive a little differently, have different seats, and options that you may like. Good luck on your endeavor. It is fun looking at new trucks. I know,,, I have a 2016 and love it.

goducks10 wrote:
You definitely need a DRW.

Instigator

Do some research on the CP4 pump if you want a diesel Powerstroke or Duramax. If you keep your vehicles a decent amount of time it could be an issue, for you to decide how important. If you trade frequently it likely won't be an issue. The Cummins doesn't use that injection pump.

As far as gas versus diesel goes, if you can afford more up front, the overall cost is pretty close to a wash. So my advice is make that call based on factors other than cost - it's more about personal preference and performance.