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Dec 02, 2014

Towing a larger Travel Trailer

Hey Guys, newbie here. I recently upgraded to a 35ft Nomad Joey that has a dry weight of 7250 lbs, but the sticker on the side says it weighs like 8100 lbs(not sure what that weight means, dry weight plus whats in the trailer?). We bought our 1st camper last December, 24ft light travel trailer but soon realized we wanted to upgrade since we have 2 children and fell in love with camping. I have a 2007 Toyota crewmax that has a max towing capacity around 10,400 lbs. We have taken it on a short trip of about 30-40 miles away from the house but we are getting ready for a 3-4 hour trip and I'm a little nervous. I've seen a lot of campers my size on the road being towed by 3/4 ton trucks. Should my Tundra be ok? or did I over do it with this big of a travel trailer? Recommended top speed? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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I recently upgraded to a 35ft Nomad Joey that has a dry weight of 7250 lbs, but the sticker on the side says it weighs like 8100 lbs(not sure what that weight means, dry weight plus whats in the trailer?). We bought our 1st camper last December, 24ft light travel trailer but soon realized we wanted to upgrade since we have 2 children and fell in love with camping. I have a 2007 Toyota crewmax that has a max towing capacity around 10,400 lbs. We have taken it on a short trip of about 30-40 miles away from the house but we are getting ready for a 3-4 hour trip and I'm a little nervous. I've seen a lot of campers my size on the road being towed by 3/4 ton trucks. Should my Tundra be ok? or did I over do it with this big of a travel trailer? Recommended top speed? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.","body@stringLength":"834","rawBody":"Hey Guys, newbie here. I recently upgraded to a 35ft Nomad Joey that has a dry weight of 7250 lbs, but the sticker on the side says it weighs like 8100 lbs(not sure what that weight means, dry weight plus whats in the trailer?). We bought our 1st camper last December, 24ft light travel trailer but soon realized we wanted to upgrade since we have 2 children and fell in love with camping. I have a 2007 Toyota crewmax that has a max towing capacity around 10,400 lbs. We have taken it on a short trip of about 30-40 miles away from the house but we are getting ready for a 3-4 hour trip and I'm a little nervous. I've seen a lot of campers my size on the road being towed by 3/4 ton trucks. Should my Tundra be ok? or did I over do it with this big of a travel trailer? Recommended top speed? 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The only time I was told my half ton was too small, was when I asked two different dealers what I had to do to it to tow a Fiver. Both dealers said you will not be happy with anything less than a ¾ ton


And the 3/4 ton in the fifth wheel market is mostly overloaded as well as in the pickup camper market,I would venture to guess more so than so called 1/2 tons in the travel trailer market.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-03T01:12:15.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-03T01:12:15.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":343},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478095","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"426","rawBody":"
The only time I was told my half ton was too small, was when I asked two different dealers what I had to do to it to tow a Fiver. Both dealers said you will not be happy with anything less than a ¾ ton


And the 3/4 ton in the fifth wheel market is mostly overloaded as well as in the pickup camper market,I would venture to guess more so than so called 1/2 tons in the travel trailer market.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1478095_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:179161":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:179161","uid":179161,"login":"john_bet","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-03-18T07:10:02.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:179161"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478094":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1478094","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1478094":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:179161"},"id":"message:1478094","revisionNum":1,"uid":1478094,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1478073"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1478073"},"subject":"Re: Towing a larger Travel Trailer","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478094"},"body":"Check inside the kitchen cabinets. There should be a sticker showing several weights to include GVW,weight of water onboard,weight of propane ondoard.etc.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"154","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-02T17:41:25.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-02T17:41:25.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":343},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478094","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"154","rawBody":"Check inside the kitchen cabinets. There should be a sticker showing several weights to include GVW,weight of water onboard,weight of propane ondoard.etc.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1478094_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:359561":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:359561","uid":359561,"login":"silverfz","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-10-05T04:56:44.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:359561"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478093":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1478093","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1478093":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:359561"},"id":"message:1478093","revisionNum":1,"uid":1478093,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1478073"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1478073"},"subject":"Re: Towing a larger Travel Trailer","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478093"},"body":"I tow a 31 Foot tt with a 2008 crewmax without the trd which adds the blistein shocks.My TT Brochure claims 6800 lbs dry and sticker 6333 lbs dry. one day I will weigh to find which is correct.

I have the 4 pt equi-l-izer and once I got it setup correctly which the dealer did not , it tows real good. I have a full exhaust so when the kids are sleeping I the back I geneally turn the tow/haul off on the highways.

I even have nitto grapper for tire and on 20 inch aftermarket rims. I have only towed around 1000 miles in 2 months. maybe I will change my mind next year when I do first 400 mile in one day tow. Maximum distance in one go was 175 miles so far. Again, it ran smooth and . wished the full exhaust was quieter. We got the camper after the truck .I am happy with this setup. I might in the future get a smaller TT when the kids grow up.

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I have the 4 pt equi-l-izer and once I got it setup correctly which the dealer did not , it tows real good. I have a full exhaust so when the kids are sleeping I the back I geneally turn the tow/haul off on the highways.

I even have nitto grapper for tire and on 20 inch aftermarket rims. I have only towed around 1000 miles in 2 months. maybe I will change my mind next year when I do first 400 mile in one day tow. Maximum distance in one go was 175 miles so far. Again, it ran smooth and . wished the full exhaust was quieter. We got the camper after the truck .I am happy with this setup. I might in the future get a smaller TT when the kids grow up.

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Just one experience of trailer sway will do it.

See signature for the fix.... :-)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-02T14:59:38.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-02T14:59:38.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":343},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478092","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"319","rawBody":"Had the same thing happen to me. Salesman said \"Sure, that'll pull it\". Yeah to the house. After its loaded, kids and dogs are in the car and you take off down the interstate, get ready for the \"white knuckles\" effect.
Just one experience of trailer sway will do it.

See signature for the fix.... :-)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1478092_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:793":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:793","uid":793,"login":"Ron3rd","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-03-22T05:55:34.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:793"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478091":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1478091","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1478091":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:793"},"id":"message:1478091","revisionNum":1,"uid":1478091,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1478073"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1478073"},"subject":"Re: Towing a larger Travel Trailer","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478091"},"body":"
buffaloKev wrote:
Hey Guys, newbie here. I recently upgraded to a 35ft Nomad Joey that has a dry weight of 7250 lbs, but the sticker on the side says it weighs like 8100 lbs(not sure what that weight means, dry weight plus whats in the trailer?). We bought our 1st camper last December, 24ft light travel trailer but soon realized we wanted to upgrade since we have 2 children and fell in love with camping. I have a 2007 Toyota crewmax that has a max towing capacity around 10,400 lbs. We have taken it on a short trip of about 30-40 miles away from the house but we are getting ready for a 3-4 hour trip and I'm a little nervous. I've seen a lot of campers my size on the road being towed by 3/4 ton trucks. Should my Tundra be ok? or did I over do it with this big of a travel trailer? Recommended top speed? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


I tow about the same as you with my CrewMax 5.7. Also went from a 25ft to a 35ft. for the same reasons you did. Biggest difference I noticed was with the length as you have to be more careful on the turns. Other than that, no problems.

Most important thing is to have a good quality WD Hitch, properly set up. I've got the Equalizer with 4 pt sway control and it works fine.

Lots of owners towing the same trailer as mine (Windjammer 3001W) on the Forest River forum and are very satisfied as this is a v-hull that is very aerodynamic.

As to your weights, the lower weight rating is normally the dry weight and the higher number will be the gross weight which is the max the trailer is supposed to weigh loaded.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-02T14:24:16.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-02T14:24:16.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":293},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478091","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1644","rawBody":"
buffaloKev wrote:
Hey Guys, newbie here. I recently upgraded to a 35ft Nomad Joey that has a dry weight of 7250 lbs, but the sticker on the side says it weighs like 8100 lbs(not sure what that weight means, dry weight plus whats in the trailer?). We bought our 1st camper last December, 24ft light travel trailer but soon realized we wanted to upgrade since we have 2 children and fell in love with camping. I have a 2007 Toyota crewmax that has a max towing capacity around 10,400 lbs. We have taken it on a short trip of about 30-40 miles away from the house but we are getting ready for a 3-4 hour trip and I'm a little nervous. I've seen a lot of campers my size on the road being towed by 3/4 ton trucks. Should my Tundra be ok? or did I over do it with this big of a travel trailer? Recommended top speed? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


I tow about the same as you with my CrewMax 5.7. Also went from a 25ft to a 35ft. for the same reasons you did. Biggest difference I noticed was with the length as you have to be more careful on the turns. Other than that, no problems.

Most important thing is to have a good quality WD Hitch, properly set up. I've got the Equalizer with 4 pt sway control and it works fine.

Lots of owners towing the same trailer as mine (Windjammer 3001W) on the Forest River forum and are very satisfied as this is a v-hull that is very aerodynamic.

As to your weights, the lower weight rating is normally the dry weight and the higher number will be the gross weight which is the max the trailer is supposed to weigh loaded.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1478091_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:2313":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2313","uid":2313,"login":"JnJnKatiebug","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-10-14T13:23:57.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2313"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478090":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1478090","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1478090":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2313"},"id":"message:1478090","revisionNum":1,"uid":1478090,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1478073"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1478073"},"subject":"Re: Towing a larger Travel Trailer","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478090"},"body":"My neighbor just bought a trailer about that size. He had a Chevy 1500 2 wheel drive. They told him he could pull, no problem. He just made his first run, 400 miles round trip. When he got back I ask how it went. He said well I made it home.

When I got home yesterday he had a new 2500 Dodge Cummins 4x4 sitting in the driveway. I went over and checked it out, beautiful rig. I think he now understands the difference is pulling it and \"Pullin it\".","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-02T14:10:33.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-02T14:10:33.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":290},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478090","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"459","rawBody":"My neighbor just bought a trailer about that size. He had a Chevy 1500 2 wheel drive. They told him he could pull, no problem. He just made his first run, 400 miles round trip. When he got back I ask how it went. He said well I made it home.

When I got home yesterday he had a new 2500 Dodge Cummins 4x4 sitting in the driveway. I went over and checked it out, beautiful rig. I think he now understands the difference is pulling it and \"Pullin it\".","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1478090_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:309799":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:309799","uid":309799,"login":"SprinklerMan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-09-11T17:17:27.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:309799"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478089":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1478089","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1478089":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:309799"},"id":"message:1478089","revisionNum":1,"uid":1478089,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1478073"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1478073"},"subject":"Re: Towing a larger Travel Trailer","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478089"},"body":"
buffaloKev wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful. I talked to a dealership and they told me I was fine with my WD set up and sway bars... but after reading these replies, I may need to down size to a smaller trailer.


Thats how you sell a trailer .","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-02T13:21:46.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-02T13:21:46.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":291},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478089","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"299","rawBody":"
buffaloKev wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful. I talked to a dealership and they told me I was fine with my WD set up and sway bars... but after reading these replies, I may need to down size to a smaller trailer.


Thats how you sell a trailer .","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1478089_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:335375":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:335375","uid":335375,"login":"CKNSLS","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-07-20T18:27:46.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:335375"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478088":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1478088","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1478088":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:335375"},"id":"message:1478088","revisionNum":1,"uid":1478088,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1478073"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1478073"},"subject":"Re: Towing a larger Travel Trailer","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478088"},"body":"Yes there are some people who pull some monstrous loads with a half-ton. They are satisfied with the performance and either do not know or are willing to live with the over load for the small percentage of the time they tow their trailer.

rbpru -I also recommend no more than 5,000 pounds dry for half tons, and I have been criticized for this. But, IMHO that weight will keep you within all limits/specs the trucks were designed for.


Most people wouldn't put their families at risk intentionally, therefore I'm afraid it's ignorance.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-02T13:10:37.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-02T13:10:37.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":292},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478088","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"570","rawBody":"Yes there are some people who pull some monstrous loads with a half-ton. They are satisfied with the performance and either do not know or are willing to live with the over load for the small percentage of the time they tow their trailer.

rbpru -I also recommend no more than 5,000 pounds dry for half tons, and I have been criticized for this. But, IMHO that weight will keep you within all limits/specs the trucks were designed for.


Most people wouldn't put their families at risk intentionally, therefore I'm afraid it's ignorance.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1478088_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:1762":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1762","uid":1762,"login":"rbpru","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-12-18T15:07:24.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1762"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478087":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1478087","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1478087":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1762"},"id":"message:1478087","revisionNum":1,"uid":1478087,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1478073"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1478073"},"subject":"Re: Towing a larger Travel Trailer","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478087"},"body":"The only time I was told my half ton was too small, was when I asked two different dealers what I had to do to it to tow a Fiver. Both dealers said you will not be happy with anything less than a ¾ ton.:(

As you may have figured already, it is not how much you can tow; you can “pull” a lot of weight. What limits you is much weight you can add to the truck. You will usually find the cargo capacity on a sticker on the door jamb somewhere and it varies with each truck and accessories.:h

Your truck has to carry people, truck accessories such as a cap, tools, tables, chairs camping gear, mirrors, bikes and other toys etc. In addition you have to add the tongue weight of the trailer.


Yes there are some people who pull some monstrous loads with a half-ton. They are satisfied with the performance and either do not know or are willing to live with the over load for the small percentage of the time they tow their trailer. :@

My personal choice is a 5000 lb. TT for a half ton and even that pushes the cargo limit when it is loaded with lot of “stuff”. ;)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-02T12:25:25.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-02T12:25:25.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":290},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478087","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1114","rawBody":"The only time I was told my half ton was too small, was when I asked two different dealers what I had to do to it to tow a Fiver. Both dealers said you will not be happy with anything less than a ¾ ton.:(

As you may have figured already, it is not how much you can tow; you can “pull” a lot of weight. What limits you is much weight you can add to the truck. You will usually find the cargo capacity on a sticker on the door jamb somewhere and it varies with each truck and accessories.:h

Your truck has to carry people, truck accessories such as a cap, tools, tables, chairs camping gear, mirrors, bikes and other toys etc. In addition you have to add the tongue weight of the trailer.


Yes there are some people who pull some monstrous loads with a half-ton. They are satisfied with the performance and either do not know or are willing to live with the over load for the small percentage of the time they tow their trailer. :@

My personal choice is a 5000 lb. TT for a half ton and even that pushes the cargo limit when it is loaded with lot of “stuff”. ;)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1478087_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:165379":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:165379","uid":165379,"login":"handye9","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-05-16T09:57:01.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:165379"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478086":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1478086","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1478086":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:165379"},"id":"message:1478086","revisionNum":1,"uid":1478086,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1478073"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1478073"},"subject":"Re: Towing a larger Travel Trailer","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1478086"},"body":"
buffaloKev wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful. I talked to a dealership and they told me I was fine with my WD set up and sway bars... but after reading these replies, I may need to down size to a smaller trailer.


Forget about that mythical tow number. You won't get there with out overloading your Tundra.

Don't listen to RV sales people, as to what you can tow. Some of them have never towed a trailer. They see an advertised max tow capacity number and try to sell you a trailer with unloaded weight, near to your capacity. In some cases, people have purchased trailers that, when loaded for camping, they exceeded the max tow number. There have also been folks who bought trailers that were within their trucks capacity, but, they failed to consider the weight of their passengers and cargo. Soon as everybody got in the truck, it no longer had the capacity for the trailer.

If you want real world numbers on what you can tow, look at the loading sticker on your drivers door post. That will show you a max occupant / cargo (payload) number and GVWR.

That payload number is weight capacity your truck had, when it left the factory, to carry fuel, aftermarket accessories, driver, passengers, cargo, and trailer tongue weight, combined.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Example:

Lets say that number is 1500 lbs.

If your truck now has a fiberglass bed cap (about 200 lbs), it's available payload would be 1300 lbs.

If your fuel, driver, passengers, and cargo weigh 700 lbs, you would have 600 lb payload available for hitch (about 100 lbs) and tongue weight.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Once you know what your available payload is, divide that number by .12. The result is a ballpark number for loaded trailer weight that will put you at max weight on the truck.

Example:

After weight is deducted for fuel, driver, passengers, cargo, and WD hitch, you have 800 lbs payload available for tongue weight.

800 divided by .12 equals 6666 lb loaded trailer.

Average camping load (dishes, pots and pans, camp chairs, BBQ, bedding, groceries, and water, etc) is 800-1000 lbs.

You should look at trailers with unloaded weight below 5666 lbs.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Your numbers could be higher, or lower, depending on size of family and how much stuff you plan to put in the truck.

Things to keep in mind:

Payload will be used up, long before you get close to the mythical max tow number.

Towing at or above max weight, can be unpleasant, and, it puts you in a situation where you need to be concerned about location and weight of everything and everybody going camping with you. Takes some of the fun out of it.

Most half ton trucks, come with passenger (P) rated tires. Passenger tires are built for comfort, not carrying a heavy load. When they are put in a position of carrying heavy loads, they are not as stable as truck \"LT\" tires.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-02T11:54:11.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-02T11:54:11.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":291},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1478073/message:1478086","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"3224","rawBody":"
buffaloKev wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful. I talked to a dealership and they told me I was fine with my WD set up and sway bars... but after reading these replies, I may need to down size to a smaller trailer.


Forget about that mythical tow number. You won't get there with out overloading your Tundra.

Don't listen to RV sales people, as to what you can tow. Some of them have never towed a trailer. They see an advertised max tow capacity number and try to sell you a trailer with unloaded weight, near to your capacity. In some cases, people have purchased trailers that, when loaded for camping, they exceeded the max tow number. There have also been folks who bought trailers that were within their trucks capacity, but, they failed to consider the weight of their passengers and cargo. Soon as everybody got in the truck, it no longer had the capacity for the trailer.

If you want real world numbers on what you can tow, look at the loading sticker on your drivers door post. That will show you a max occupant / cargo (payload) number and GVWR.

That payload number is weight capacity your truck had, when it left the factory, to carry fuel, aftermarket accessories, driver, passengers, cargo, and trailer tongue weight, combined.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Example:

Lets say that number is 1500 lbs.

If your truck now has a fiberglass bed cap (about 200 lbs), it's available payload would be 1300 lbs.

If your fuel, driver, passengers, and cargo weigh 700 lbs, you would have 600 lb payload available for hitch (about 100 lbs) and tongue weight.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Once you know what your available payload is, divide that number by .12. The result is a ballpark number for loaded trailer weight that will put you at max weight on the truck.

Example:

After weight is deducted for fuel, driver, passengers, cargo, and WD hitch, you have 800 lbs payload available for tongue weight.

800 divided by .12 equals 6666 lb loaded trailer.

Average camping load (dishes, pots and pans, camp chairs, BBQ, bedding, groceries, and water, etc) is 800-1000 lbs.

You should look at trailers with unloaded weight below 5666 lbs.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Your numbers could be higher, or lower, depending on size of family and how much stuff you plan to put in the truck.

Things to keep in mind:

Payload will be used up, long before you get close to the mythical max tow number.

Towing at or above max weight, can be unpleasant, and, it puts you in a situation where you need to be concerned about location and weight of everything and everybody going camping with you. Takes some of the fun out of it.

Most half ton trucks, come with passenger (P) rated tires. Passenger tires are built for comfort, not carrying a heavy load. 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