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Bluedeacon
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Jan 15, 2022

Towing mileage/capability

First, I did see a 'what are you towing with?' post. Be darned if I can find it. I'm happy to read suggested posts if you point me to them.

We have a 2021 Wolfpup 16fq, 3200 lbs, nearly 12' high if you include the AC; figure 4000 max with us and fuel and gear.

Right now I'm towing with a 2003 Yukon, but in a year or two we'd like to get something better - better mileage the priority, but failing that, capability and/or comfort, as well as lower to the ground if possible, as my wife has problems climbing into high trucks. So I'd like to hear from people with experience relative to our trailer, if possible.

I work on my own so older vehicles are worth considering, too. My experience is, rated towing does not always align with capability, and while I've found 4wd is helpful at times at county sites, I wonder if front wheel drive - like the Flex (4500lb tow) or the Traverse (5500lb tow) are up to the task.

Our experiences:

My Dakota supposedly had a 5500 lb rating (3.57 ratio and 135k on the V6) ; I had upgraded brakes in anticipation of towing since it had the towing capacity. It manhandled the trailer fine and actually brakes better without trailer brakes (yet) than either of the GM full size. However while mileage here in the rolling hills of eastern Iowa was 14, it wanted to spend most of its time in second gear which made me a bit nervous. I suspect a V8 one would be fine. Very comfortable on long trips.

We bought a 2001 Silverado Z71 with the 5.3 V8, 4.10 gears, trailer package but while replacing the brake lines found a cracked frame covered up with undercoat and the rear axle leaked Iike a sieve; we replace it with the Yukon (340k) also with the 5.3 and 3.73 gears. The Silverado towed well, rarely went out of overdrive, and got 14/21 not towing, 12 to 14 towing, and climbed those steep hills along the Mississppi. By contrast, the Yukon will only tow in third and wants to shift liberally to second; mileage at best is 10/17 not towing and 8 towing, on the same roads as the Silverado; it struggles on steep hills. Both of these newer trucks kill my back. Actually the '95 Silverado K1500HD (trailer package and 350, extended cab long box) towed and got better mileage than this Yukon does with the '71 Holiday Rambler Vacationer we had some years back. That truck was much easier to work on, too.

So what are other's experiences with towing trailers around this size? Are there better choices without spending a huge amount?

Thanks, Bruce

46 Replies

  • Did you do a lift on the trailer? Specs say it's 10'6"...no where close to 12'.

    Basically, you aren't likely to find significant difference in MPG...it takes fuel to make power and it takes power to drag a brick thru the air at high speed.

    The best way to improve MPG is to slow down.

    Are you set on an SUV? A rear wheel drive 1/2 ton pickup (properly spec'd, not just any) is a nice match for a 4 lb trailer. Plenty of them kicking around and if you get a 4door version, you can comfortably carry 4-6 people and likely will have some payload left for stuff in the truck bed.
  • You are caught in the age old "half ton" quagmire thinking they are all the same

    Mainly because of using marketing nomenclature. Better to use actual references...like their GVWR & RGAWR

    That 95 GM 1500HD is a unicorn that is more 3/4 ton...and with extended cab +long bed...is several feet longer than the others, which is a key stability factor, but not the only

    What comes with bigger GVWR/RGAWR are BIGGER brakes, transmission, etc

    Why it towed the same trailer better than the others

    Look for 6k or higher RGAWR & +8k GVWR and longer wheel base

    Get it that you don't mind older and note that that these higher GVWR & RGAWR TVs has more margin. Therefore should have more left in them...unless previous beat the snoot out of them

    Oh...also note that a 95 +8K GVWR (3/4ton) 6K RGAWR is the SAME axle as the 1 ton dually of that era. Diff are in the spring pack & rear brake shoe with/wheel cylinder borel
  • Older and more capable and better mileage are words that are not often used together.
    But you’ll be better served to stick with a full size v8 body on frame for towing compared to the cracker boxes you mentioned.
    I still say, gmt 400s are still some of the best vehicles for a combo of modern features with old simplicity and largely the most reliable, cheap to fix. Find you a cherry gmt 400 and don’t worry about mileage.
    Or anything newer, the options are endless.
  • 12 to 14 MPG with the Silverado and 4000 pounds of trailer was pretty good. You won’t do better wth gasoline IMO. I get 11 to 12 with 5200 pounds of TT driving 55 MPH.
  • No matter what you get a gas engine towing that trailer will get single digit or there about fuel mileage. Thetre is no alternative.
  • Your needs are common. You are asking for more for less. As you go up in comfort and capability you also go up in price. Suggest you look at used Toyota, Hondas, Nissan, chevy colorado, etc. Many will be high mileage and high prices. Now is not a good time to buy. Most in this class will tow 5000 lbs dead weight or 6500 lbs weight distribution.

    Keep your eyes open and search far and wide. You may just find what meets your needs.

    Good luck in your quest.