New to towing, but here's the setup we're looking at. Does this look reasonable? Am I overlooking anything? (will have WDHitch, sway bars and such)2014 Jeep GC 4WD EcoDiesel(Specs: GVWR 6,800 / TR 7,200 / GCWR ~13,000)Est. GVW 6,500 +Curb W: 5,300 +Payload: 600 +Tongue W: 600FR Grey Wolf 19RR Toy Hauler (GVWR 7,575)Est. GVW 6,000 +UVW: 4,300 +Est. Payload: 1,500 +200 lbs (for margin of error)GCW = 12,500

The Jeep's payload number of 600 is glaring. If that is correct, the trailer empty will be too much after you place a second person in the tow vehicle and 80-100 lbs for the WD hitch.Tongue weight should be 15% of trailer weight, so 6000 lb trailer, = 900 tongue weight.

Its about tongue weight and the payload of the jeep.. As it sits the TW of trailer is 574lbs advertised. Add battery and propane you'll be up to 700 or so. ( Guesstimate from experience)Then add toys in and you may well be up near 1000 lbs..Whats the jeeps payload say on the door?Who will be in the jeep when you will tow?If you own the jeep already I would take it to the scales and see what you have as actual payload. I would do this before I buy any trailer.Load car with all passengers, full tank fuel, and any gear you may carry.. You may be surprised that you may not be able to carry all that weight on the tongue...You can only get so much off with a WD hitch...That trailer may be a good fit if it wasn't a toy hauler...Although I am not familiar with how the weight transfer when toys are added.The toy guys can answer better...http://www.forestriverinc.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=91&Image=5035&ShowParent=1&ModelID=819#Main

Every time I just see a Jeep GC in the parking lot at the local grocery store, I am reminded of these forums and how many different posts there have been about this same subject, "Can my Jeep GC tow this...?" And physically looking at those GC's at the grocery store, I shake my head and think to myself ... how in the world can anyone possibly think this vehicle can tow much more than a 4x8 U-Haul utilty trailer? I suppose because they put a receiver hitch on them, folks think they can tow anything? I shake my head every time I see one. Sorry ... I don't think it will work very well for you. (not long term anyway!)

Hmmm payload is only 1050 lbs to 1270 lbs depending on model... Page 7.Weight the jeep as I stated above...Post back with front and rear axle weights from the scales.http://www.wk2jeeps.com/2014/2014_wk2_specifications.pdf

Sorry to burst your bubble, but too much trailer for too small a tow vehicle. A small pop-up camper will just about be the limit of what your Jeep GC can pull.

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bobndot
Explorer II
Jan 19, 2018
See the below link :
I would be looking at the C-L models in the 14 ,
maybe 16 models.

Weigh your Jeep with all your stuff/people in it and you will see that the payload is limited once you pack it for a trip.
You have to pack your stuff somewhere . Load up the Jeep or load up the trailer, its all weight that must be spread out between the two. You cant over-pack the trailer either...axles/tires .

https://www.livinlite.com/products/camplite-travel-trailers/floorplans-and-photos.html
drsteve
Explorer
Jan 19, 2018
bailer6334 wrote:
"IF" the GC has unibody construction confirm with Jeep what the Hitch carrying capacity is. I had a Dodge Durango that pulled my current trailer just fine, however because of the unibody construction my hitch was only rated at 720lbs. My tongue weight was 800lbs (even though Mfg said it was 413lbs). I had to upgrade the vehicle because of this.

Beginning with the 2011 model year, the Durango and the Grand Cherokee are the same vehicle.
lawrosa
Explorer
Jan 19, 2018
ChristyFord wrote:
lawrosa wrote:
What unit specifically?

I dont see a light wildwood toy hauler. They all have heavy TW...

Are you talking the FSX wildwood..?

http://www.forestriverinc.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=510&Image=24737&ShowParent=1&ModelID=3668#Main

This is the TH model I'm considering...

https://rv.campingworld.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-toy-hauler-rvs/2018-forest-river-wildwood-x-lite-180rtxl-toyhauler-10k-ASH1423351

IDK you really should weight the jeep before you buy anything.. This will tell you exactly what you can tow.. Full tank gas and all people and gear..

You could just buy willy nilly maybe .

As said the uni body construction on the jeep.. as well as coil springs IMO is not a good thing..

Also if you buying something the cheaper trailers with no shower surround is crazy.. IDK how water sprayed on the Luan is supposed to last.

Get a unit with at least that..

And definatly a trailer with two axles.. Not one..

Just my opinion...

This still might be a bit heavy but just showing you there are a bit nicer units out there..

https://www.kz-rv.com/products/sportsmen-le-travel-trailers/travel-trailer-toy-hauler-190THLE.html

http://www.hufnagel-majors.com/rv/harmony+pa/kz+traveltrailer/900/kz+sportsmen+le+190thle

https://www.tennesseerv.com/New-Inventory-2018-KZ-RV-Sportsmen-Le-190THLE-Knoxville-Tennessee-4568619
ChristyFord
Explorer
Jan 19, 2018
lawrosa wrote:
What unit specifically?

I dont see a light wildwood toy hauler. They all have heavy TW...

Are you talking the FSX wildwood..?

http://www.forestriverinc.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=510&Image=24737&ShowParent=1&ModelID=3668#Main

This is the TH model I'm considering...

https://rv.campingworld.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-toy-hauler-rvs/2018-forest-river-wildwood-x-lite-180rtxl-toyhauler-10k-ASH1423351
bailer6334
Explorer
Jan 19, 2018
"IF" the GC has unibody construction confirm with Jeep what the Hitch carrying capacity is. I had a Dodge Durango that pulled my current trailer just fine, however because of the unibody construction my hitch was only rated at 720lbs. My tongue weight was 800lbs (even though Mfg said it was 413lbs). I had to upgrade the vehicle because of this.
lawrosa
Explorer
Jan 19, 2018
What unit specifically?

I dont see a light wildwood toy hauler. They all have heavy TW...

Are you talking the FSX wildwood..?

http://www.forestriverinc.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=510&Image=24737&ShowParent=1&ModelID=3668#Main
mountainkowboy
Explorer
Jan 19, 2018
That looks to be a better fit.
ChristyFord
Explorer
Jan 19, 2018
What about with this trailer (same vehicle)…

FR Wildwood X-Lite Toy Hauler (GVWR ~5,500)
Est. GVW 4,600
+UVW: 3,100
+Est. Payload: 1,500

2014 Jeep GC 4WD EcoDiesel
(Specs: GVWR 6,800 / TR 7,200 / Max Payload 1,270 / GCWR ~13,000)
Est. GVW 6,500
+Curb W: 5,300
+Payload: 1,200
(Psgrs 600 + 13%TW 600)

GCW = 11,100
drsteve
Explorer
Jan 18, 2018
kerrlakeRoo wrote:
The Jeep's payload number of 600 is glaring. If that is correct, the trailer empty will be too much after you place a second person in the tow vehicle and 80-100 lbs for the WD hitch.

Tongue weight should be 15% of trailer weight, so 6000 lb trailer, = 900 tongue weight.

I interpreted that as he's figuring 600 lb of stuff and people in the Jeep, and 600 lb of tongue weight on the hitch ball.

I don't think the short wheelbase unibody GC is up to it, but that's just me.
evanrem
Explorer II
Jan 18, 2018
kerrlakeRoo wrote:
The Jeep's payload number of 600 is glaring. If that is correct, the trailer empty will be too much after you place a second person in the tow vehicle and 80-100 lbs for the WD hitch.

Tongue weight should be 15% of trailer weight, so 6000 lb trailer, = 900 tongue weight.

This pretty much sums it up

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