Toyota Diesel

If the price at the pump is exactlly the same between gasoline and diesel...

diesel is still much cheaper.

Because diesel gets so many more mpg

On my best day my old 3/4 ton gasoline fueled truck got 9.9 mpg

With my Lance 1161 fully loaded I actually have almost 70,000 miles averaging 15.1 mpg using diesel (my trucks computer read out and verified)

If both fuels are $4.00/gallon

My old gasoline engine would require 505.05 gallons to go 5000 mile which would cost $2020.20

My diesel engine would require 331.12 gallons to go 5000 miles which would cost $1324.50

That is a $695.69 savings over 5000 milesat $4.00/gallon

That is $24,349.38 saved in fuel over a gasoline engine for the 70,000 miles that I have had my Duramax if both gasoline and diesel are both priced at exactly $4.00/gallon.

It appears to me that the extra cost of the diesel engine has been well worth it...

sleepy wrote:
If the price at the pump is exactlly the same between gasoline and diesel...

diesel is still much cheaper.

Because diesel gets so many more mpg

On my best day my old 3/4 ton gasoline fueled truck got 9.9 mpg

With my Lance 1161 fully loaded I actually have almost 70,000 miles averaging 15.1 mpg using diesel (my trucks computer read out and verified)

If both fuels are $4.00/gallon

My old gasoline engine would require 505.05 gallons to go 5000 mile which would cost $2020.20

My diesel engine would require 331.12 gallons to go 5000 miles which would cost $1324.50

That is a $695.69 savings over 5000 milesat $4.00/gallon

That is $24,349.38 saved in fuel over a gasoline engine for the 70,000 miles that I have had my Duramax if both gasoline and diesel are both priced at exactly $4.00/gallon.

It appears to me that the extra cost of the diesel engine has been well worth it...

Your math is wrong. $695.69 in savings per 5000 miles. 70,000/5000 = 14. $695.69*14 = $ 9,739.66 in savings in 70k miles. So you've now offset the cost of the diesel upgrade with diesel = gas in costs per gallon.

To bad diesel has basically been costing at 50 cents a gallon more than gas for almost 10 years now.

I filled the VW diesel last night. The cost was the same as high end gas, $3.99 .. I have run my truck for the past 13 years on bio diesel that cost me anywhere between 1 and 2 bucks a gallon. Won't be doing that much longer so will just have to grin and pay the costs. Diesel won't get cheaper, the whole world uses it to move goods and there is a demand for it. Just about everything we purchase got to us using some form of diesel. Just an opinion.

2BLAZERS wrote:

sleepy wrote:
If the price at the pump is exactlly the same between gasoline and diesel...

diesel is still much cheaper.

Because diesel gets so many more mpg

On my best day my old 3/4 ton gasoline fueled truck got 9.9 mpg

With my Lance 1161 fully loaded I actually have almost 70,000 miles averaging 15.1 mpg using diesel (my trucks computer read out and verified)

If both fuels are $4.00/gallon

My old gasoline engine would require 505.05 gallons to go 5000 mile which would cost $2020.20

My diesel engine would require 331.12 gallons to go 5000 miles which would cost $1324.50

That is a $695.69 savings over 5000 milesat $4.00/gallon

That is $24,349.38 saved in fuel over a gasoline engine for the 70,000 miles that I have had my Duramax if both gasoline and diesel are both priced at exactly $4.00/gallon.

It appears to me that the extra cost of the diesel engine has been well worth it...

Your math is wrong. $695.69 in savings per 5000 miles. 70,000/5000 = 14. $695.69*14 = $ 9,739.66 in savings in 70k miles. So you've now offset the cost of the diesel upgrade with diesel = gas in costs per gallon.

To bad diesel has basically been costing at 50 cents a gallon more than gas for almost 10 years now.

The cost of the maintenance will easily eat at least 50% (or more) of the amount "saved". We have to assume the maintenance will be done at a commercial garage or dealership since MOST PEOPLE will have it performed that way. Yes, you have maintenance on a gas motor as well-it's not anywhere near as costly.

2BLAZERS wrote:

sleepy wrote:
If the price at the pump is exactlly the same between gasoline and diesel...

diesel is still much cheaper.

Because diesel gets so many more mpg

On my best day my old 3/4 ton gasoline fueled truck got 9.9 mpg

With my Lance 1161 fully loaded I actually have almost 70,000 miles averaging 15.1 mpg using diesel (my trucks computer read out and verified)

If both fuels are $4.00/gallon

My old gasoline engine would require 505.05 gallons to go 5000 mile which would cost $2020.20

My diesel engine would require 331.12 gallons to go 5000 miles which would cost $1324.50

That is a $695.69 savings over 5000 milesat $4.00/gallon

That is 9,739.66 saved in fuel over a gasoline engine for the 70,000 miles that I have had my Duramax if both gasoline and diesel are both priced at exactly $4.00/gallon.

It appears to me that the extra cost of the diesel engine has been well worth it...

Your math is wrong. $695.69 in savings per 5000 miles. 70,000/5000 = 14. $695.69*14 = $ 9,739.66 in savings in 70k miles. So you've now offset the cost of the diesel upgrade with diesel = gas in costs per gallon.

Too bad diesel has basically been costing at 50 cents a gallon more than gas for almost 10 years now.

thank you.... as some one recently pointed out I'm an old guy with problems :B I corrected the above in red... to match my face

The dramax in 2003 was about $5,000 extra.. so I'm ahead...even with your correction.

My truck still looks very good, and "they say" the engine is good for 300,000 miles... a good chance some one will get a great truck at the end of my life... looking for another 30 plus years.

I'm hopeing for a few more coast to coast trips... made possible by diesel and boondocking in our truck camper.

Here in green CA we have greener gas at a cost and I believe greener diesel also also at a cost , diesel hasent been cheaper than gas for years ,still cheaper overall than gas in my VW TDI that get up to 50mpg
I heard on the news the whole country will be getting a new greener gas by I think it was 2016 at a cost of about 6 cents per gal , ya right, bet its more
Anytime you factor in the lifetime miles (say 500k) you get out of a diesel motor , you come out ahead , no matter the cost of fuel
And theres also higher resale value
As far as maintenance I find diesels easier to work on than gas and as cheap, with way less to go wrong , aside from taking 3 times the oil to change
I havent owned a gasser anything in 12 years

CKNSLS wrote:

2BLAZERS wrote:

sleepy wrote:
If the price at the pump is exactlly the same between gasoline and diesel...

diesel is still much cheaper.

Because diesel gets so many more mpg

On my best day my old 3/4 ton gasoline fueled truck got 9.9 mpg

With my Lance 1161 fully loaded I actually have almost 70,000 miles averaging 15.1 mpg using diesel (my trucks computer read out and verified)

If both fuels are $4.00/gallon

My old gasoline engine would require 505.05 gallons to go 5000 mile which would cost $2020.20

My diesel engine would require 331.12 gallons to go 5000 miles which would cost $1324.50

That is a $695.69 savings over 5000 milesat $4.00/gallon

That is $24,349.38 saved in fuel over a gasoline engine for the 70,000 miles that I have had my Duramax if both gasoline and diesel are both priced at exactly $4.00/gallon.

It appears to me that the extra cost of the diesel engine has been well worth it...

Your math is wrong. $695.69 in savings per 5000 miles. 70,000/5000 = 14. $695.69*14 = $ 9,739.66 in savings in 70k miles. So you've now offset the cost of the diesel upgrade with diesel = gas in costs per gallon.

To bad diesel has basically been costing at 50 cents a gallon more than gas for almost 10 years now.

The cost of the maintenance will easily eat at least 50% (or more) of the amount "saved". We have to assume the maintenance will be done at a commercial garage or dealership since MOST PEOPLE will have it performed that way. Yes, you have maintenance on a gas motor as well-it's not anywhere near as costly.

Dear CKNSLS

When will I have to start doing the maintaince beyond the $44 oil changes at walmart.

Of couse my duramax is only 11 years old and I have looked, I can't find any plugs, points, etc to work on in my diesel engine.

Are you sure that you have a diesel engine? Have you ever had one? If so you must have abused it or been very unlucky.

With that note, I decided I'd better look.

My search of your past posts tell me that you own a 2011 1/2 ton pick up truck that you tow a small trailer with.

That doesn't sound like you have a lot of diesel maintaince experience


Please correct me if I'm wrong... we want the forum reader to get honest information, don't we?

Jeeze, my truck is 12 years old and the only maint. expense has been oil, coolant, and filters which I do myself. Of course goodies for it have been a added expense. Adding a on board air system pretty soon.

Please correct me if I'm wrong... we want the forum reader to get honest information, don't we?

Your not wrong, and

Always

sleepy wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

2BLAZERS wrote:

sleepy wrote:
If the price at the pump is exactlly the same between gasoline and diesel...

diesel is still much cheaper.

Because diesel gets so many more mpg

On my best day my old 3/4 ton gasoline fueled truck got 9.9 mpg

With my Lance 1161 fully loaded I actually have almost 70,000 miles averaging 15.1 mpg using diesel (my trucks computer read out and verified)

If both fuels are $4.00/gallon

My old gasoline engine would require 505.05 gallons to go 5000 mile which would cost $2020.20

My diesel engine would require 331.12 gallons to go 5000 miles which would cost $1324.50

That is a $695.69 savings over 5000 milesat $4.00/gallon

That is $24,349.38 saved in fuel over a gasoline engine for the 70,000 miles that I have had my Duramax if both gasoline and diesel are both priced at exactly $4.00/gallon.

It appears to me that the extra cost of the diesel engine has been well worth it...

Your math is wrong. $695.69 in savings per 5000 miles. 70,000/5000 = 14. $695.69*14 = $ 9,739.66 in savings in 70k miles. So you've now offset the cost of the diesel upgrade with diesel = gas in costs per gallon.

To bad diesel has basically been costing at 50 cents a gallon more than gas for almost 10 years now.

The cost of the maintenance will easily eat at least 50% (or more) of the amount "saved". We have to assume the maintenance will be done at a commercial garage or dealership since MOST PEOPLE will have it performed that way. Yes, you have maintenance on a gas motor as well-it's not anywhere near as costly.

Dear CKNSLS

When will I have to start doing the maintaince beyond the $44 oil changes at walmart.

Of couse my duramax is only 11 years old and I have looked, I can't find any plugs, points, etc to work on in my diesel engine.

Are you sure that you have a diesel engine? Have you ever had one? If so you must have abused it or been very unlucky.

With that note, I decided I'd better look.

My search of your past posts tell me that you own a 2011 1/2 ton pick up truck that you tow a small trailer with.

That doesn't sound like you have a lot of diesel maintaince experience


Please correct me if I'm wrong... we want the forum reader to get honest information, don't we?

Let's do a poll. How many take their $50,000.00 diesel to Walmart for oil changes? How much is the REGULAR PRICE at the dealer for a Dmax (or equivalent) oil change? What does the dealer charge to change those fuel filters?

BTW-There are not any "distributor points" on my Silverado either. And the plug chnages are every 100K. And I don't own a big trailer and Diesel pickup BY CHOICE.

Now I'll think I'll go over to the Ford board and read about those 6.0 Powerstroke diesels....