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obie66
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Jun 19, 2013

Trailer brakes lock when I brake from the truck

My pop-up trailer - 2006 Starcraft is locking the brakes when I step on the brake from the truck. The wheels lock and the trailer skids, then rolls, then skids. Touching my brakes is like slamming the truck its so powerful, so its a full lock of the wheels. I've read many similar posts to this which gives me some ideas, but am still unclear which is likely my issue. Here's the full breakdown:

Pulled the trailer 3-4 times this year with no issues. Took it camping this weekend. I think the emergency brake cord pulled when I unhooked and I put it back in at the time. When we left the campground, as soon as we were on the campground pavement the trailer brakes locked. I kept going and with every step of my brake, it locked the trailer. I pulled over, unplugged my trailer plug (round 7 way), disconnected the emergency plug and re-inserted. The problem was gone. We drove 120 miles home, no issues. Then, I hooked up last night and the whole thing happened again. I tried unhooking the emergency plug and the 7 way and reinserting again - but this time the problem didn't go away. I tried lowering the output to the brakes to zero, it didn't help. So the problem just started. I may have pulled the emergency plug when I unhooked the trailer, I can't remember for sure. But it was in when I pulled out from the campground.

I have also tried lowering my output down to the lowest possible (zero) in my truck (09 Ford F150). It doesn't help. When I step on my brakes, the trailer brakes completely lock, then release (I can go a ways again), lock then release.

I just replaced the fuses on my battery a couple weeks ago because they shorted out in the rain (I think). One of the wires has a quick disconnect (the green one, which I understand goes to the converter in the trailer). I am still not clear if the disconnect should be connected or unconnected when driving. And I'm not clear how the battery situation might cause this problem. Clearly the brakes get power. And it isn't just a bit of to much power, it feels like the emergency brake engages as soon as I tap my brake. If I had a short somewhere, which locations should I check?

I am a newbie, and just figuring out the wiring in general of the camper and battery and still don't fully get the system. Thanks so much for any help!

Jeff

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  • I really question the controller at this point. It really does sound like the focal point. It is the only thing providing electricity to the brakes when the TV is applying brakes, if I understand your description of the behavior. What is the model of controller you are using?

    The break-away switch can be replaced easily for $25. The brake controller can be replaced for $120 with a good Prodigy, as needed.

    If you haven't already explored the brake system wiring on your PUP, it is pretty basic when laid out.

    Electric power for the brakes (electromagnets inside each brake, thus the need for electricity) comes from two sources: the TV's brake controller and 12v system, and the break-away switch with 12v from a battery on the PUP (either the main battery or a small, dedicated battery for the brakes).

    When the pin is pulled out of the break-away switch, this completes the circuit and allows the full voltage to activate the brakes. There will be no intermediate levels of braking - it will be full voltage/power and immediate. The wires leading to and from the break-away switch only carry the positive charge: one side comes from the positive terminal of your PUP's battery, the other side goes to the brakes. However, using the TV's brakes will have no affect on this system. Only when the pin is pulled out will it activate.

    The brake controller in the TV, as you are acquainted with from your description, provide proportional power to the PUP's brakes through the 7-way connector. As you mention, you can dial this up or down. Activating the level partially should apply some voltage and more voltage is applied as you move the lever further to max.

    What happens when you slowly activate the manual lever on the brake controller? Does it lock up or is gradual braking applied?

    As opnspaces asks, if the break-away switch is not connected to the battery, do you still have the problem? If so, it should have nothing to do with the break-away switch at this point. It's in the controller and/or wiring.

    And Terryallan hits upon what I think is the culprit, in that the TV's brake controller was connected when the break-away switch was activated, sending an electrical charge back into the controller, likely scrambling it.

    Let us know how you progress, so we can all learn. And good luck hunting this down. Like I said, there's only a few components to deal with so it's a matter of ruling them out.
  • Hey Obie66, welcome to the forum.

    Could be a short between the brake lights and the brake wire for the trailer. Do you have a multimeter or a 12V test light that you can use to do some tests?

    Do you have a friend or relative that tows with a 7 pin that you could see if the problem occurs with their vehicle? That would at least allow you to focus on the tow vehicle or the trailer.

    You stated

    obie66 wrote:
    I pulled over, unplugged my trailer plug (round 7 way), disconnected the emergency plug and re-inserted. The problem was gone.
    Jeff


    How did you disconnect the emergency plug( breakaway switch)? As far as I know the only two parts to the emergency plug are the cable/pin, and a positive wire to the battery. Are you saying you pulled and reinserted the pin?
    Or did you disconnect the positive wire to the breakaway switch?

    If you pull the power wire for the breakaway switch does the problem go away?
  • Not knowing all circumstances. It is possible, that the first time you pulled the E brake pin out, and If the 7 pin was still hooked up. You possibly damaged the brake controller. Pulling the pin with the controller hooked up, "Can" damage the brake controller.