Ray & June wrote:
Look at "fightingchance.com". I've used it twice, my son-in-law used it, and I'd use it again.
He explains dealer holdbacks, bonuses, and how and when to make an offer.
Have the dealers bid against each-other for your business. Never talk to a salesman.
Not a employee of them, but a satisfied customer.
X2 - I have not used this site yet, but likely will. Even if you are not in the market for a new vechile, this site is worthwhile reading - lots of interesting articles. And yes, these services are bogus. Depend on the dealerships - they pay TrueCar.com for referrals. Invoice price is the newest scam.