thehippie wrote:
jus2shy wrote:
OP, just to clarify what everyone is saying here, is that there are several classes of "Full-size" trucks.... *Snipped for brevity's sake*
Thanks for your Reply. How come diesel has lesser payloads? I thought they'd be more stronger.
Hi OP, as was previously mentioned by member katoom400, a diesel engine weighs significantly more than a gas motor. So for 3/4 ton pickups, their absolute weight limit is typically 10,000 lbs (for insuring and law purposes). One of the great reasons why the 3/4 ton class of truck exists is because many states have laws/legislation/insurance requirements that greatly increase the cost of owning a vehicle rated with a GVWR higher than 10,000 lbs. These increases can be in the forms of insurance requirements, or registration. Fortunately my state is not one of them. A gas truck may weigh 7,200 lbs. While a diesel may weigh 8,000 lbs. So with that absolute top limit of 10,000 lbs GVWR, you lose 800 lbs worth of payload with the diesel engine. Your gas truck will have a payload rating of 2,800 lbs while the diesel will only have 2,000 lbs of payload. This is just an example, as different manufacturers have different weights for their truck configuration, but I hope this illustrates the point.
1-ton trucks can have a higher GVWR since they don't have the law/insurance limitations of 10,000 GVWR. But, in some states, you may be required to insure these vehicles differently or register them differently because of certain laws/legislation. This can greatly increase the cost of ownership for a vehicle, so it's a good idea to research your state of residence to see if they have any sort of requirement that revolves around this. So without the 10,000 lbs GVWR limitation, the manufacturers just beef up the frame and suspension as needed when they use a diesel and maintain the greater payload rating.
I highly recommend talking to your insurance agent or doing an online quote to see how much insurance would cost between different classes of vehicles (3/4 and 1 ton). I would also recommend calling your DMV or checking your DMV's website to see if you have different registration requirements for vehicles over 10,000lbs GVWR. Lastly, I'll apologize on behalf of the other members as I'm sure they had good intentions before the thread got de-railed, but I hope you find all the information you need.
And to everyone else... Pretty sad to pull the trolling card as the OP probably didn't quite understand much about the different classes of pickup trucks. Kinda sad to see a thread de-volve into the state it's in versus discussing the merits and differences of the vehicle classes to help educate the OP / potential purchaser in the differences between the truck classes. Whatever happened to sharing wisdom versus vitriol?