Uh Oh.....Dodge/Cummins Emissions Law Suit

What's the pollution factor for all those "Clean Diesel" trucks driving down the freeway belching toxic white smoke while they "Regen?" After owning a 2009 F350 6.4 for a year, I can smell that "clean" sickening stench for miles. I'm guessing the carcinogen factor during regen is 1000X the output of an older, normal diesel engine. And our freeways are stacked with big rigs in a constant state of "Regen."

These new trucks may be cleaner for 275 driven miles, but they more than make up for it during the 25-50 miles while in regen that I doubt in the end there is any real benefit. I suspect, that in fact, regen pollution may be more toxic.

The humor is great guys ,keep it coming,quite Refreshing!!

I can't help but wonder how did Ram/cummins fix the soot clogging emissions problems with the 6.7ctd from 07.5-12. The supposed fix was to be a new calibration that fixed some trucks but did not fix others.

I suspect that calibration change was controlling the EGR duty cycle and volume to reduce soot build up in the EGR cooler, EGR valve, turbo and the DPF, but could have come at the expense of meeting EPA requirements.

Ram Owners accuse emission cheating

Would anybody be surprised if the Ford 1/2 ton diesel is delayed.?

um final calibration is taking longer then expected.............

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
All 2017 Eco-Diesels are on hold as the Feds are up all manufactures backsides since the VW scam! Seems the EcoD is not passing some part of the new 2017 test. GM for some reason has been aloud to continue selling their GM baby diesel by listing it as a 2016 while they have their 2017 trucks tested. No word on Ford's 3.0 diesel but it is not due out until later next year.

Don

Don - I think you meant GM was "allowed" to continue selling their 2016 as it was already certified. The VINs would have a 2016 VIN, so it meets the certification.

Remember in 2014 that Ford built their 2014 trucks to the end of November, so they could discount them against the price of the new GM twins.

Smart business decisions.

My bad yep "allowed" not such a smart phone after all lol.

The point is GM is being allowed to sell their 2017 trucks as 2016 so why isn't Ram allowed to also? The 2016 Ecodiesel passed the old regs just fine, it is the new 2017 regs that ALL the manufactures are having issues with. Or has GM suspended manufacturing until they get the OK from the EPA? There is only one company selling 2017 diesels in the US right now (light vehicles) and that is Jaguar.

here is the autoweek story

You work for GM what are you hearing?

Here is what Autoweek said "GM is now awaiting approval for the 2017 Colorado and Canyon, sources at the company said. GM, which also has a Cruze diesel due next year, says it's still building 2016 diesel pickups."

Looks like they are skirting the rules a bit here to me, just saying.

Airstreamer67 wrote:
I see the attorney in Mississippi just dropped his case against Popeye's Chicken because he and his family were being criticized for his effort to right a great wrong.

It seems he, the attorney, had choked on a piece of fried chicken because he wasn't given a knife to cut it with. Without the needed knife, he, the attorney, was forced to rip the chicken off the bone with only his bare teeth! This caused some of the brutalized meat to lodge in this throat, and it required medical intervention to correct the problem.

He, the attorney, says that even though he dropped the suit in order to save him and his family, he hopes the chicken company learned its lesson and will begin supplying knives to eat its fried chicken with in the future.

Probably not. After all, McDonald's didn't seem to learn its lesson. It's still serving coffee hot, despite the lawsuit brought by the lady with the burned loins.

perhaps the attorney could learn to eat properly.. but that would be too simple.. easier to start a frivolous lawsuit.. these people.. sigh..

goducks10 wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
It's going to be interesting what the new administration does when they get in office. :E

Interesting is a HUGE understatement. If they do away with the EPA then I'm deleting. :)

delete ??.. well my DPF fell off on it's own somehow... ;)

I own a 2010 Dodge 2500 diesel. I just had to have the catalytic converter replaced at 74,000 miles. Luckily this was covered by the 80,000 mile power train warranty. Since I plan to own an this truck for a long time, I am hoping this isn't evidence of problems to come in the future!

Greentreena wrote:
In sum, the emission system gives you crappy fuel mileage, shortens engine life and doesn't reduce emissions.... glad mine fell off years ago!

You obviously have never ran or been around a smog machine have you?

Crappy mileage? 20 MPG on the open hwy with 425+ HP on tap! That's crappy mileage? :R

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
It's going to be interesting what the new administration does when they get in office. :E

Interesting is a HUGE understatement. If they do away with the EPA then I'm deleting. :)