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urbex
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Apr 21, 2016

Using 70s/80's MDT as camper+4x4 hauler?

I currently have an '05 Ram 1500 2WD quad cab short bed truck, with the Hemi and factory tow package. As is so common, when I bought the truck, I didn't forsee my future needs, thus it doesn't really meet my current needs. Oops.. :P

My main hobby is 4x4 rock crawlers, which I typically trailer to the trails rather than drive them, largely due to them being set up for the rocks and street manners are not at all friendly. I have a 20ft deck flat bed trailer that I move them on, which works quite well behind the Ram, although I do have to be very careful how I load it to avoid bottoming out the suspension on the truck.

I have recently added a '70-something SixPac truck camper to the mix, and by itself, it is lightweight enough that it barely squats the Ram. Although I haven't scaled it, I'm guesstimating it to be around 1,000lbs empty based on suspension squat of the truck.

Either are fine by themselves with the 1/2 ton Dodge, and although I haven't yet attempted to do both together, I'm really thinking the truck isn't going to like it.

I started looking at various other truck options, and whoo-boy!! New(er) trucks are EXPENSIVE!! Plus, now I feel like if I go into a 1 ton truck, I'm only meeting current needs again, not "future proofing" myself.

So I started browsing Craigslist, and found a few 70s and 80s MDT trucks - F700s, F750s, Kodiak/Topkicks, C4500s. C5500s (which I think is just a Kodiak with a different badge?), etc. A couple had 17-20 foot flatbeds on them, and it got me thinking....Toss the camper on the front of the flatbed, and without a bed in the way, I'd have room for much larger water tanks and storage areas as my old camper doesn't have a basement on it. Then I'd still have room behind it to load one of the 4x4s...and probably still have enough capacity to haul the trailer behind it if I needed more room still.

The problem here is that I really have zero experience with these old trucks. Is this even a feasible plan for these types of trucks? I'm guesstimating a total load, between the loaded camper, 4x4, bigger water/storage tanks, tools, etc to be between 8000 to 10,000lbs. Obviously the ride is going to be horrible compared to a new pickup, the "creature comforts" won't be there, and I figure the gas mileage is going to bring on the major suck regardless of whether I go gas or diesel. But on the other hand, this would be a dedicated hauling truck for me, I still have other vehicles for daily usage, and I'd still keep the Ram for light duty hauling duties.

Really what I'm wondering is whether I could realistically load up 10K on the deck of one of these things, and cruise down the highway at 65mph without much issue?

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  • Lessmore wrote:
    Big too. Have you driven a MDT or HDT ? They take up a lot of road.


    That I have :) We have a fleet of Freightliner M2s and SDs here at work, along with a few day cab semis,so I'm familiar with the physical size..not gonna get these puppies through the McDonald's drivethru! :D

    Though these aren't exactly comparable to the old stuff as far as ride quality and power. I was actually surprised at how easy these new trucks are compared to some of the older stuff...it's almost just like driving a monster sized pick up truck!
  • One of our grain trucks on the old family farm was a '76 Ford F 700. We had the 5 speed (Clarke transmission I think) with 2 speed axle and the 370 cube , 2 barrel V8.

    I think it could probably handle the weight, but you might want to check the specs first. It was a hard riding truck, not much power with a heavy load of grain.

    Big too. Have you driven a MDT or HDT ? They take up a lot of road.

    We didn't have it on the highway much, just a short distance to the grain elevator from the farm. Should manage 60 mph, but probably not much passing performance.

    If memory serves me, I believe the gas engine lineup was essentially the Ford 385 V8, truck engine series, which then included the 370 cubic inch V8, 2 barrel or 4 barrel and 429 cube V8, 2 or 4 barrel. I'd go for the 429 if you could find one...more cubes, more punch.

    Not familiar with the diesel options back then.

    I'd also look at old farm trucks, as they generally have lower miles and less service time on them...if they were mostly confined to the farm, like ours.

    Our big Ford had a lift to empty the grain box. Also check length of frame, etc., to make sure you will have the length to get the stuff on that you want.
  • Part of the reason for going down this road is cost, namely acquisition cost. I just flat don't have 20K in the budget right now for a new truck. Even if I were to sell the current Dodge, it wouldn't get me much closer, as it's been used as a truck quite a bit, and has taken some body damage off road here in the Arizona desert. It's still a plenty solid truck mechanically, but I honestly would be astounded if I got $5,000 out of it if I were to sell it. Realistically would likely be closer to $3,000.

    I really don't like the idea of taking out another loan for a truck, especially for something that's going to be sitting far more often than it will be driven. Ever since I started driving my Miata as a daily, my Dodge gets driven once or twice a month now. So the thought of having a 10K or 20K loan on such a vehicle doesn't exactly excite me, lol, even more so if I decide a year or two down the road that even a 1 ton dually isn't enough for whatever I get into then.

    Some of these older trucks I've been seeing for $2,000-$5,000, which I could easily do right now.
  • urbex wrote:
    Really what I'm wondering is whether I could realistically load up 10K on the deck of one of these things, and cruise down the highway at 65mph without much issue?
    If you don't mind bouncing up and down in your seat like a trampoline, sure.

    As you said, the ride will be horrible.