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VW/Audi

This is going to hurt the bottom line a bit! So wonder how the fix will affect their fuel mileage and used car prices? LINK The Environmental Protection Agency and California issued a notice of v...
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W4RLR wrote:
creeper wrote:
Just some info for current VW owners affected by the VW issue.

VW has offered a \"Good Will\" gesture of a $500 gift card to use anywhere and a $500 gift card to be used at any VW dealer.

A tidbit from my Lawyer on this issue, DO NOT accept their \"Goodwill\" gift. In the fine print you give up all your legal rights to sue VW and you agree to arbitration on the issue and you must travel to South Dakota for the arbitration.

Some \"Good Will\" gift.
Your lawyer gave you bad information. The arbitration clause only applies to the GIFT CARD. VW has already filed documents in federal court that stipulate they will NOT tie the goodwill gift cards to mandate any arbitration for the emissions issue. While VW may have been wrong in this emissions issue, painting them with a tarred brush by saying they are using a goodwill program to mandate arbitration is false. You can accept the goodwill program without affecting your legal rights. Not my interpretation, but the interpretation of legal counsel who has filed suit against VW. I will leave it there and not elaborate as to the law firm involved, as I am sure that would be against the rules of this forum.


Why would you need arbitration in South Dakota for a gift card?

Do you have a link to the stipulation transcript in Federal court? I believe it's in paragraph 10 of the Gift card agreement. I've just looked through a number of my gift cards and not of them has 10 paragraphs or an agreement for arbitration in South Dakota.

Forbes article on it.

Many Lawyers disagreeing on how far reaching the arbitration clause is.

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W4RLR wrote:
creeper wrote:
Just some info for current VW owners affected by the VW issue.

VW has offered a \"Good Will\" gesture of a $500 gift card to use anywhere and a $500 gift card to be used at any VW dealer.

A tidbit from my Lawyer on this issue, DO NOT accept their \"Goodwill\" gift. In the fine print you give up all your legal rights to sue VW and you agree to arbitration on the issue and you must travel to South Dakota for the arbitration.

Some \"Good Will\" gift.
Your lawyer gave you bad information. The arbitration clause only applies to the GIFT CARD. VW has already filed documents in federal court that stipulate they will NOT tie the goodwill gift cards to mandate any arbitration for the emissions issue. While VW may have been wrong in this emissions issue, painting them with a tarred brush by saying they are using a goodwill program to mandate arbitration is false. You can accept the goodwill program without affecting your legal rights. Not my interpretation, but the interpretation of legal counsel who has filed suit against VW. I will leave it there and not elaborate as to the law firm involved, as I am sure that would be against the rules of this forum.


Why would you need arbitration in South Dakota for a gift card?

Do you have a link to the stipulation transcript in Federal court? I believe it's in paragraph 10 of the Gift card agreement. I've just looked through a number of my gift cards and not of them has 10 paragraphs or an agreement for arbitration in South Dakota.

Forbes article on it.

Many Lawyers disagreeing on how far reaching the arbitration clause is.

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