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brholt
Explorer II
Oct 08, 2013

Washington Winter Mountain Pass Chain Requirements

As we are heading into winter here I thought I would check up on the requirements for tacking my camper over the passes in winter. Because I have a 4x4 with M&S tires I figured that I wouldn't have to worry about chains. Was I in for a surprise. The rules are completely different for vehicles over 10,000 lb GVW. If I am reading this right the law requires, for vehicles over 10,000 lb's:

- chains on vehicles, both drive axel, if the signs say traction tires required or chains required.

- carrying a minimum of two extra sets off chains.

- carrying the 2 sets of chains regardless of road conditions from Nov. 1st to April 1st regardless of road conditions if I go over a pass.

Chain requirement law

Is this peoples actual experience?
  • wnjj's avatar
    wnjj
    Explorer II
    ~DJ~ wrote:
    enblethen wrote:
    That is two extra chains, not extra sets. This is more based on over the road trucks.


    OK, I'm confused. What is 2 extra chains if not a set of chains? Cross links?


    A "set" of chains must be for one tire so they want you to carry enough spares for one axle (2 extra sets).
  • A set is for two locations.
    An extra chain is so if you break or loose one, you can replace the lost one.
  • wnjj's avatar
    wnjj
    Explorer II
    enblethen wrote:
    A set is for two locations.
    An extra chain is so if you break or loose one, you can replace the lost one.


    The OP said, "carrying a minimum of two extra sets off chains" when the law says to carry 2 extra chains. So in that context, "set" meant one wheel.

    That's what the confusion is about. Put simply, you need 4 wheel's worth of chains to meet that law.
  • wnjj wrote:
    enblethen wrote:
    A set is for two locations.
    An extra chain is so if you break or loose one, you can replace the lost one.


    The OP said, "carrying a minimum of two extra sets off chains" when the law says to carry 2 extra chains. So in that context, "set" meant one wheel.

    That's what the confusion is about. Put simply, you need 4 wheel's worth of chains to meet that law.


    LOL If two chains are a "set" then why not just say an extra set is required vs two extra chains? This comment was directed at the idiots who wrote this lame law..........our gov't hard at work!!!! :R
  • wnjj's avatar
    wnjj
    Explorer II
    ~DJ~ wrote:
    wnjj wrote:
    enblethen wrote:
    A set is for two locations.
    An extra chain is so if you break or loose one, you can replace the lost one.


    The OP said, "carrying a minimum of two extra sets off chains" when the law says to carry 2 extra chains. So in that context, "set" meant one wheel.

    That's what the confusion is about. Put simply, you need 4 wheel's worth of chains to meet that law.


    LOL If two chains are a "set" then why not just say an extra set is required vs two extra chains? This comment was directed at the idiots who wrote this lame law..........our gov't hard at work!!!! :R


    To be fair, a "set" is vague whereas 2 means exactly that, especially when dually and multi-axle combination vehicles are involved.

    But yeah, they are lame for not updating the 10k number for decades.