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JBarca
Mar 09, 2023Nomad II
Hi Boondocker,
I have tried several times over the last two days to try and understand your point of view, and I keep coming back to, you appear to have taken a set of words out context in the way they were meant for. I will try one last time to explain.
Here is a quote section from my original post that is being talked about so you do not have to flip back to the prior page and you can see the entire paragraph.
The first part of the item 1, was meant to have the OP confirm if water would flow out of all the faucets on the hot faucet side. The hope was he could confirm the flow on the hot side would be even at all faucets, ideally the same flow as the cold faucet. I just did not ask him if the flow was even, we never made it that far as he solved the issue.
The items included in blue, is where it seems to be where the problem starts from your view. I could of left item 1 stand with only the first sentence, but I added more detail to help him try and understand why the question was being asked.
Here is the full sentence in quotes you have labeled as misinformation, not just the part you quoted above as a stand alone statement. This is where I believe the miss understanding of context is coming in.
"Water coming from a hot water faucet (even if cold) means water is getting into and out of the water heater, just it may not be hot, which is a different problem. "
That statement had nothing to do with the heater being bypassed or even why it was not getting hot. The sentence is correct for a "non-bypassed" system which is what the statement is all about. If the system is not in bypass, then water should go in and come out of the water heater, pass through the piping where it will come out of the hot water faucets as cold water as it passes through the heater. If the heater is plugged up, or parts of the bypass system are plugged up, water can be restricted and not flow correctly. But if it is flowing well, cold water should show up at the hot faucets then we know the heater is not plugged up. That is the context of the statement, it is about flow through the heater.
I agree with you, cold water can come out of the hot water faucet if the system is in bypass. The context of the statement dealt with the system not bypassed. I'm sure you are not saying cold water cannot pass through a water heater and come out the hot side of a faucet.
Can you now see the context of the statement as I made it?
Since you used the word friend in your last post, that is a good word. As a friendly suggestion, when you see something in my posting or someone else's, that looks wrong, not right, mixed up, etc, trying asking for clarification before labeling the wording as misinformation. The poster may have just plan goofed. It happens, we are human.
Another friendly suggestion, find a different word then the political buzz word, misinformation. That word has a lot of negative meaning to it. See here what synonyms Merriam Webster declares for the word misinformation. https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/misinformation. The first one in the list of synonyms is lie, and the list gets worse from there.
I hope this helps at least explains what was being talked with water passing through the heater.
John
I have tried several times over the last two days to try and understand your point of view, and I keep coming back to, you appear to have taken a set of words out context in the way they were meant for. I will try one last time to explain.
Boon Docker wrote:
I did not say all your info is wrong, just what was stated below.
"Water coming from a hot water faucet (even if cold) means water is getting into and out of the water heater,"
^ That my friend is mis-information.
You can have water come out of a hot faucet when the water heater is bypassed. No water is entering or leaving the water heater.
Here is a quote section from my original post that is being talked about so you do not have to flip back to the prior page and you can see the entire paragraph.
JBarca wrote:ncladfw3 wrote:
Ok thanks, when I unscrewed the aerator that improved the flow. I still don't have hot water though. It is supposed to be an electric HW heater. I checked all of the circuit breakers and they are fine. Outside water valve under the trailer is closed.
Hi,
A few things to confirm and then look for,
1. Confirm this, at any faucet in the camper (bath, shower, kitchen, outside shower etc) at the hot water faucet "only", does any water come out of any faucet? The water may be cold, but knowing if any water comes out helps pinpoint the issue. Water coming from a hot water faucet (even if cold) means water is getting into and out of the water heater, just it may not be hot, which is a different problem. No water coming out of any faucet points to the bypass valves are not letting water in, or out, OR a check valve on the hot outlet port of the water heater is defective pending the type of bypass setup you have.
The first part of the item 1, was meant to have the OP confirm if water would flow out of all the faucets on the hot faucet side. The hope was he could confirm the flow on the hot side would be even at all faucets, ideally the same flow as the cold faucet. I just did not ask him if the flow was even, we never made it that far as he solved the issue.
The items included in blue, is where it seems to be where the problem starts from your view. I could of left item 1 stand with only the first sentence, but I added more detail to help him try and understand why the question was being asked.
Here is the full sentence in quotes you have labeled as misinformation, not just the part you quoted above as a stand alone statement. This is where I believe the miss understanding of context is coming in.
"Water coming from a hot water faucet (even if cold) means water is getting into and out of the water heater, just it may not be hot, which is a different problem. "
That statement had nothing to do with the heater being bypassed or even why it was not getting hot. The sentence is correct for a "non-bypassed" system which is what the statement is all about. If the system is not in bypass, then water should go in and come out of the water heater, pass through the piping where it will come out of the hot water faucets as cold water as it passes through the heater. If the heater is plugged up, or parts of the bypass system are plugged up, water can be restricted and not flow correctly. But if it is flowing well, cold water should show up at the hot faucets then we know the heater is not plugged up. That is the context of the statement, it is about flow through the heater.
I agree with you, cold water can come out of the hot water faucet if the system is in bypass. The context of the statement dealt with the system not bypassed. I'm sure you are not saying cold water cannot pass through a water heater and come out the hot side of a faucet.
Can you now see the context of the statement as I made it?
Since you used the word friend in your last post, that is a good word. As a friendly suggestion, when you see something in my posting or someone else's, that looks wrong, not right, mixed up, etc, trying asking for clarification before labeling the wording as misinformation. The poster may have just plan goofed. It happens, we are human.
Another friendly suggestion, find a different word then the political buzz word, misinformation. That word has a lot of negative meaning to it. See here what synonyms Merriam Webster declares for the word misinformation. https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/misinformation. The first one in the list of synonyms is lie, and the list gets worse from there.
I hope this helps at least explains what was being talked with water passing through the heater.
John
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