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May 14, 2016

WD and Air Bags on Rear - Why a No-No?

Hi Team, In searches and reading the forums, there seems to be a chorus of folks who say Air Bags and WD systems do not mix. Why can't you: 1) Deflate air bags first, 2) Then hook up and set ...
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... In searches and reading the forums, there seems to be a chorus of folks who say Air Bags and WD systems do not mix.
....
:S All these years, since my 4Runner was new, I have been doing it wrong. :E

I have NO idea how many pounds pressure are in my air bags, I have a switch on the console with L - N - H (low, normal, high). The bags set the height automatically. The only problem I had was setting up the WDH. It doesn't do any good to measure the "drop" at the rear wheel wells with a load so I measure the drop at the front wheel wells to make sure I am not taking weight off the front axle. A trip to the scales shows me how much is added to the front and rear axles.

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In searches and reading the forums, there seems to be a chorus of folks who say Air Bags and WD systems do not mix.

Why can't you:
1) Deflate air bags first,
2) Then hook up and set the WD (hook up trailer, tension bars, proper leveling front to rear, etc.),
3) Lastly just add enuff air to help cushion the ride (not lift the rear).

What am I missing? This seems like a perfectly reasonable way to use air bags and WD together.

Thanks in advance for your time and responses.

Oh, if it matters I tow with an F250 2WD, Diesel, Crew Cab.","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-05-14T11:34:57.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2211919_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":6686},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Hi Team,

In searches and reading the forums, there seems to be a chorus of folks who say Air Bags and WD systems do not mix.

Why can't you:
1) Deflate air bags first,
2) Then hook up and set the WD (hook up trailer, tension bars, proper leveling front to rear, etc.),
3) Lastly just add enuff air to help cushion the ride (not lift the rear).

What am I missing? This seems like a perfectly reasonable way to use air bags and WD together.

Thanks in advance for your time and responses.

Oh, if it matters I tow with an F250 2WD, Diesel, Crew Cab."},"Conversation:conversation:2211919":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2211919","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2211919"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2016-05-19T05:24:52.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2016-05-19T05:24:52.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":21,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2211919":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2211919","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2211919_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2211919_1","lastEditTime":"2016-05-14T11:34:57.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2211928":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2211928","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2211919"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:347976"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2211928,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"subject":"Re: WD and Air Bags on Rear - Why a No-No?","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2211928"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2211919"},"body":"
cruz-in wrote:
... In searches and reading the forums, there seems to be a chorus of folks who say Air Bags and WD systems do not mix.
....
:S All these years, since my 4Runner was new, I have been doing it wrong. :E

I have NO idea how many pounds pressure are in my air bags, I have a switch on the console with L - N - H (low, normal, high). The bags set the height automatically. The only problem I had was setting up the WDH. It doesn't do any good to measure the \"drop\" at the rear wheel wells with a load so I measure the drop at the front wheel wells to make sure I am not taking weight off the front axle. A trip to the scales shows me how much is added to the front and rear axles.","body@stringLength":"752","rawBody":"
cruz-in wrote:
... In searches and reading the forums, there seems to be a chorus of folks who say Air Bags and WD systems do not mix.
....
:S All these years, since my 4Runner was new, I have been doing it wrong. :E

I have NO idea how many pounds pressure are in my air bags, I have a switch on the console with L - N - H (low, normal, high). The bags set the height automatically. The only problem I had was setting up the WDH. It doesn't do any good to measure the \"drop\" at the rear wheel wells with a load so I measure the drop at the front wheel wells to make sure I am not taking weight off the front axle. 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