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Deb_and_Ed_M
Explorer II
Oct 05, 2020

We're Baaaack - thanks!, and 2 questions

So we've run the full gamut - have officially owned almost every form of RV plus a converted cargo van; it was the van (think "steel tent" - no kitchen) and the emergence of Covid that drove us to buy a small TT, wanting to be self-contained for local camping with our adult kids/grandkids. But we love to take long sightseeing trips. Ed said he didn't want to drag the trailer along for thousands of miles - and since we have the truck anyway - suggested we go back to the nimbleness of a truck camper. Hopefully we'll pick up our 2000 Northstar TC800 pop-up next weekend!

The "TC University" is the best thread on RV.net - I re-read the threads aimed at beginners, to refresh my brain on loading, unloading, etc. A little preventative studying has saved us so many times, from making a costly mistake - I offer a sincere thank you to all who have passed their wisdom along!

Ed is hunting-up a different truck: my 2018 Silverado is capable of carrying the lightweight camper - but a diesel would be ideal for ALL the uses we ask our trucks to do. Since we own a small used-car lot, getting a late-model 3/4-ton truck is easy; the drawback is that it's "inventory" so we'll be using the stake-pocket Brophy anchors.

Here's my first question: we are partial to Fords, but wonder if the aluminum body is less-solid for the Brophy anchors? The camper is 1380 lbs dry, and since it's a pop-up, has a pretty low profile.

Second question: we'd like a small awning - thinking a bag awning like those found on pop-up camping trailers. Should it be mounted on the "body" of the TC, or on the raiseable roof?

Deb
  • d3500ram wrote:
    Deb and Ed M wrote:
    ...
    What are the chances that there's 12v electric at the site of the vent? ....

    By "vent site" I am assuming you mean there is an existing one present that you want to replace. If so, pull off the escutcheon trim and check for any wiring.

    If not, I wouldn't be cutting new holes in the roof.


    That is correct - it has a vent that simply opens. Having experienced how much condensation can build up in a popup TC, I would prefer some air movement (and I've already got the F. Fan kit).

    Hopefully we'll be picking up the camper this weekend and I can peek under the trim. I was just hoping it was something like what often happens in vehicles: the wiring harness is always put in place, but might not be used.....


  • I agree that a side mount on the body would be easier to deal with (Ed is tall, so could open/stow just standing on the ground) - but it would be partially hanging over the window. Do the bags bounce much while going down the road? (I'm thinking the window frame might create holes in the bag where they touch?)

    My "dream" would be to have a 270-degree batwing awning like the one my son has on his NoBo...LOL!!

    I haven't noticed any damage to the bag but since it is on the back it doesn't get blown around too much. I had a bag awning on the side of my pop up trailer, it would get blown around some but never had any issues with it either.
  • OK - thanks everyone. I now have a new truck: 2019 Silverado 3/4 ton Diesel. I think it won't have a problem with my puny 1400# camper...LOL! (We own a used-vehicle dealership - the diesel pulls our car hauler trailer much easier)

    And speaking of vehicles - we were at our local dealer auction - I had my choice of several 2019 3/4 ton diesel 4x4 trucks: at age 67, 5'5" tall and still pretty agile - I could NOT climb up into the F-250 (I would have needed running boards). It was ridiculously-tall compared to the others. The RAM that we liked had some sort of a drivetrain issue, so despite the nice features not found on the other similarly-priced trucks - we walked from that one. (I know diesel-lovers like that loud clattery Cummins - I'm not a fan). Then I climbed into the Chevy - and just like the story of the Three Bears - it was JUST RIGHT. I liked the perfectly-flat rear floor when the seats were flipped up - more storage for stuff I don't need to put in the camper. I know this has nothing to do with my original topic - just passing along what I discovered - when you get into bigger trucks - the Big Three are quite different!!
  • Was it 4x4 Ford?
    I was buying new truck in 2016 and all trucks on dealers lot were 4x4 with Crew Cab and I check whole West Coast for a deal.
    I had to special order 2WD, who is 3" lower (come with running boards) and SuperCab, who has WB full foot shorter than CC
    My 5-5" wife never had a problem getting in.
    I was also shopping for Dodge at the time as well, but no Dodge dealer would answer the questions, so I did not want to check how the potential service would go.
    Chevy diesel trucks don't exist on West Coast.
  • Kayteg1 wrote:
    Was it 4x4 Ford?
    I was buying new truck in 2016 and all trucks on dealers lot were 4x4 with Crew Cab and I check whole West Coast for a deal.
    I had to special order 2WD, who is 3" lower (come with running boards) and SuperCab, who has WB full foot shorter than CC
    My 5-5" wife never had a problem getting in.
    I was also shopping for Dodge at the time as well, but no Dodge dealer would answer the questions, so I did not want to check how the potential service would go.
    Chevy diesel trucks don't exist on West Coast.


    Yes, we were looking at 4x4s - the resale on a 4x4 in Michigan is much better. Sorry you didn't find good dealer support for the others :-( We've owned all 3 brands in the past, and my favorite was our F350 - but that too was a rear-wheel drive (and a 2012) and seemed no taller than any other big truck. - it's why I was stunned that the newish F-250 was so stinkin' TALL....LOL!
  • Deb and Ed M wrote:
    the resale on a 4x4 in Michigan is much better

    Are you sure?
    I already sold my Ford and I had endless calls from dealers who wanted to buy it.
    KBB made me an offer and following local Ford dealer wanted to see the truck and the dealer's sale person commented "have never seen 1 like it"
    Resale value is hard to compare, but after saving like $3k on purchase price and then couple more thousands on fuel saving, I sold my 3 yo truck with 30k miles for $15k less than new purchase price.
    Again, I sold it for trade-in price as I did not want to deal with tire kickers and you might wonder why Ford truck got best offer from .... Dodge dealer.
    But you are a dealer, so you know what you are doing ;)
    Happy camping regardless what truck you take.
  • Thanks, Kayteg1 - happy camping to you, too!

    There is always a huge demand for a nice used truck (many are used-and-abused) and we RVers tend to take good care of our tow vehicles, so I'm not surprised a Dodge dealer wanted your Ford. We happen to live in a Lake Effect snowbelt and very rural area, so yes, the vast majority of our customers want a 4x4. The funny part is that we got caught in the Great Atlanta Ice Storm of 2013, with our 2WD Ford pulling our 5er. Granted, the weight of the 5er certainly helped - but even on the worst Black Ice I've ever seen (and I'm a Michigan girl!) - with all the stability control/traction control available on vehicles now - that Ford never slipped or slid. It was an awesome truck :-)