What has 3 rows and can pull 9K?

carringb wrote:

davehultin wrote:

Friends of ours use a Toyota Sequoia which has three rows for seating and is rated for 9000 pounds.

I Sequioia cannot tow 9,000 pounds if the seats are full. I cannot even tow most 9,000# TTs even with the seats empty due to payload and hitch limitations. Its fine for a boat, or other trailers with less tongue weight. Nearly all 1/2-ton SUVs are payload limited.

Exactly!

To make it even more complicated, the Sequoia was rated for 9000 lbs tow capacity during one year (IIRC) and that was for 2010. For 2011, the Sequoia virtually didn't change but the tow capacity dropped to about 7100 lbs because of Toyota adopting the, at the time, new standard for tow ratings. The payload capacity on the Sequoia is nothing to brag about either for a 1/2 ton, it is relatively low.

We still have our 2010 Sequoia and I have pulled our loaded 8200 lbs TT from the north OR coast down into northern CA coast. The engine handled it but the tow wasn't that pleasant as the vehicle really is too short and not a vehicle that should be towing that heavy. Shortly after that trip, I had my excuse to upgrade my truck to a 1 ton diesel as it is a FAR superior tow with plenty of payload for my GVWR 9500 TT and 800 lbs ATV in the truck bed, TT now heavier as the years go by with more 'stuff' in it.

So, can a 2010 Sequoia pull that kind of weight? Yes, it can pull it but not with confidence and I think you will not be happy with the experience towing. Get a more suitable TV.

Lantley wrote:
Pull is fine but be sure it has the payload capacity to carry the tongue weight and passengers. The SUV's listed do not the last time I checked

Ditto !!!

You have to watch more than just towing capacity numbers.

When manufacturers calculate tow capacity, they do not allow for weight of aftermarket accessories, passengers, pets, or cargo in the tow vehicle. As you add these things, tow capacity along with available payload, are reduced, pound for pound.

If you loaded your trailer to it's 7700 lb gross weight, it would take 1000 to 1200 lbs of your available payload, to pull it.

Your search for three rows of seating, suggests a number of passengers. They too, along with everything they bring with them, will take up a significant amount of your payload.

If you buy a vehicle with 14 - 1500 lbs of payload (typical 1/2 ton SUV), and hook up that trailer, you don't have the capacity to carry three rows of passengers.

Nothing built on a 1/2 ton frame will do what you need. Most will pull it but they won't have the payload to pull it with 3 rows loaded with passenger weights. Don't forget as well that tow ratings reduce pound for pound with weight added to the vehicle. New ratings include 150lbs each for driver and 1 front passenger. Anything else added reduces the tow rating.

The only vehicle still made that would work would be a full size 3/4 or 1 ton van. If looking used then a 2500 Suburban or Excursion although they are getting harder to find.

davehultin wrote:

Friends of ours use a Toyota Sequoia which has three rows for seating and is rated for 9000 pounds.

A Sequioia cannot tow 9,000 pounds if the seats are full. It cannot even tow most 9,000# TTs even with the seats empty due to payload and hitch limitations. Its fine for a boat, or other trailers with less tongue weight. Nearly all 1/2-ton SUVs are payload limited.

The 6.0 gas engine 3500 Express works great.

A 2500 Suburban/Yukon XL, but those are expensive and getting older.

You can get a 2015 3500 Express that was a rental vehicle with 15k miles (or less) for upper $20k (and has 2-3 years of warranty). I just saw a 2011 Suburban with 100k miles go for $26k.

Pull is fine but be sure it has the payload capacity to carry the tongue weight and passengers. The SUV's listed do not the last time I checked

Ford Expedition EL

Ford Transit Wagon

Chevy 3500 Express VAN (or the Ford equivalent);
I've had vans for 20+ years as tow vehicles. Lots of seats or
remove the seats and have a ton of LOCKABLE space to carry all
the toys.

Mine tows like a dream.